Sam V Luke Burgess and other Big Units : Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:28 am  

I was thinking the other day about FA saying our best signing was Sam Burgess re-signing but for mine he has been poor this season overall and is a shadow of the bloke who was b1tch-slapping those Kiwi Big Units for GB. Interesting stats here http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Very close except Sam seems to be doing a hell of a lot more work. The errors and missed tackles are a worry. Looks to me like Macca is making Sam do too much. I know somone has to pull their finger out but will Burgess follow in the footsteps of James Graham or will he just end up like Fielden but earlier in his life Looks like we got the rough end of the deal here too http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

I was thinking the other day about FA saying our best signing was Sam Burgess re-signing but for mine he has been poor this season overall and is a shadow of the bloke who was b1tch-slapping those Kiwi Big Units for GB. Interesting stats here http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Very close except Sam seems to be doing a hell of a lot more work. The errors and missed tackles are a worry. Looks to me like Macca is making Sam do too much. I know somone has to pull their finger out but will Burgess follow in the footsteps of James Graham or will he just end up like Fielden but earlier in his life Looks like we got the rough end of the deal here too http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

Re: Sam V Luke Burgess and other Big Units : Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:33 am  

Ancient Provocateur wrote: Looks like we got the rough end of the deal here too http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Not sure about that one, Scruton is settling into his new club, yet still has stats close to those of Luke Burgess. Burgess has played 10 this season, Scruton has 9 under his belt. 1 game isn't alot of difference, but it still adds to the stats. Once Scruton gets settled I wouldn't say we got the rough end. As much as I'd love to see Sam and Luke playing for us, I think Scrutes will be a worthwile signing.

Ancient Provocateur wrote: Looks like we got the rough end of the deal here too http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Not sure about that one, Scruton is settling into his new club, yet still has stats close to those of Luke Burgess. Burgess has played 10 this season, Scruton has 9 under his belt. 1 game isn't alot of difference, but it still adds to the stats. Once Scruton gets settled I wouldn't say we got the rough end. As much as I'd love to see Sam and Luke playing for us, I think Scrutes will be a worthwile signing.

Re: Sam V Luke Burgess and other Big Units : Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:37 am  

Ancient Provocateur wrote: I was thinking the other day about FA saying our best signing was Sam Burgess re-signing but for mine he has been poor this season overall and is a shadow of the bloke who was b1tch-slapping those Kiwi Big Units for GB. Interesting stats here http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 How can you call that very close? Sam's played 1 game less and he has plenty more metres than Luke, more carries, tackles and offloads. Miles ahead in defence and more threatening in attack. I'd pick Sam over Luke any day, younger, more potential and already a miles better player. As for the "Fielden theory" that's utter tripe, Sam may have had a few off games but he's far, far from that route.

Ancient Provocateur wrote: I was thinking the other day about FA saying our best signing was Sam Burgess re-signing but for mine he has been poor this season overall and is a shadow of the bloke who was b1tch-slapping those Kiwi Big Units for GB. Interesting stats here http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 How can you call that very close? Sam's played 1 game less and he has plenty more metres than Luke, more carries, tackles and offloads. Miles ahead in defence and more threatening in attack. I'd pick Sam over Luke any day, younger, more potential and already a miles better player. As for the "Fielden theory" that's utter tripe, Sam may have had a few off games but he's far, far from that route.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:40 am  

As a Leeds fan I'd say Sam is the pick of those 3 at the moment by some distance. He does seem to be shouldering a lot of responsibility at the moment, and is likely to need a break at some point though. Scrutes is a good player, and still developing. Could be a GB/England regular at some point down the line. Luke has a lot of potential, but still looks very raw to me. It remains to be seen how well he polishes up. So to speak.

Re: Sam V Luke Burgess and other Big Units : Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:41 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

How can you call that very close? Sam's played 1 game less and he has plenty more metres than Luke, more carries, tackles and offloads. Miles ahead in defence and more threatening in attack. I'd pick Sam over Luke any day, younger, more potential and already a miles better player. As for the "Fielden theory" that's utter tripe, Sam may have had a few off games but he's far, far from that route.

Yeah but I reckon he spends more time on the field as Luke is an impact prop. They both made the same breaks and Sam has made more than double the errors

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:42 am  

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=2183&hs2=2008&hp2=2424&stat=tries&season=2009 Just take a look at that one to compare between the Burgesses. Luke is playing in a far better team, so is obviously going to look a good prospect. Step back and take a look -at the games and the stats- Sam is the obvious choice.

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=2183&hs2=2008&hp2=2424&stat=tries&season=2009 Just take a look at that one to compare between the Burgesses. Luke is playing in a far better team, so is obviously going to look a good prospect. Step back and take a look -at the games and the stats- Sam is the obvious choice.

Re: Sam V Luke Burgess and other Big Units : Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:43 am  

Ancient Provocateur wrote:

Yeah but I reckon he spends more time on the field as Luke is an impact prop. They both made the same breaks and Sam has made more than double the errors

Something to do with the lack of confidence in the Bradford team? As I said, playing in a better team, you will make less errors.

: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:45 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote: http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=2183&hs2=2008&hp2=2424&stat=tries&season=2009 Just take a look at that one to compare between the Burgesses. Luke is playing in a far better team, so is obviously going to look a good prospect. Step back and take a look -at the games and the stats- Sam is the obvious choice. Thas last year stop living in the past My point is this year Sam is not performing as Macca is overworking him

Ewwenorfolk wrote: http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2008&hp1=2183&hs2=2008&hp2=2424&stat=tries&season=2009 Just take a look at that one to compare between the Burgesses. Luke is playing in a far better team, so is obviously going to look a good prospect. Step back and take a look -at the games and the stats- Sam is the obvious choice. Thas last year stop living in the past My point is this year Sam is not performing as Macca is overworking him

Re: Sam V Luke Burgess and other Big Units : Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:46 am  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

Something to do with the lack of confidence in the Bradford team? As I said, playing in a better team, you will make less errors.

So if Michael Platt played for the Kangeroos he would stop having brain explosions? Amazing

Re: Sam V Luke Burgess and other Big Units : Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:47 am  

Ancient Provocateur wrote:

So if Michael Platt played for the Kangeroos he would stop having brain explosions? Amazing

Yes, he would