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What If... : Fri May 22, 2009 10:50 pm  
.....we had Tony Smith as our coach with the same squad. Would we be any better?

I was impressed with the Wire in the second half of their game today and it got me wondering how Smith has improved the Wolves.
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Re: What If... : Fri May 22, 2009 10:58 pm  
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.....we had Tony Smith as our coach with the same squad. Would we be any better?
I was impressed with the Wire in the second half of their game today and it got me wondering how Smith has improved the Wolves.
Yes we would.
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: Fri May 22, 2009 11:15 pm  
Definatley Yes,,Wire are a different team now that Smith has taken over there,,think it was said they have won 5/6 games and they were impressive 2nd half,,,.I hate to see coaches go but it looks like Mac*s time is up....
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: Fri May 22, 2009 11:28 pm  
Hard to think that we could be any worse.
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Re: What If... : Sat May 23, 2009 9:09 am  
TyBulls wrote:
.....we had Tony Smith as our coach with the same squad. Would we be any better?

I was impressed with the Wire in the second half of their game today and it got me wondering how Smith has improved the Wolves.


Doubtful, other than the normal (usually temporary)jump in performance that you normally get with a `new` regime.

The differences in circumstances between Wire and the Bulls are very large; The squad at Warrington have been massively underperforming, since given the names on the teamsheet they really ought to be in the top two or three, whilst we have what, by the standards of recent years, is a relatively poor squad.

That said, Smithy has shown himself to be a very capable coach who got the best from a poorish Huddersfield squad before his move to Leeds. Can`t comment on Wire last night though as I was otherwise engaged in Salford :wink:
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Re: What If... : Sat May 23, 2009 9:11 am  
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Doubtful, other than the normal (usually temporary)jump in performance that you normally get with a `new` regime.

The differences in circumstances between Wire and the Bulls are very large; The squad at Warrington have been massively underperforming, since given the names on the teamsheet they really ought to be in the top two or three, whilst we have what, by the standards of recent years, is a relatively poor squad.

That said, Smithy has shown himself to be a very capable coach who got the best from a poorish Huddersfield squad before his move to Leeds. Can`t comment on Wire last night though as I was otherwise engaged in Salford :wink:
So with a new coach we'd still be 13th in the league.
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Re: What If... : Sat May 23, 2009 9:19 am  
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So with a new coach we'd still be 13th in the league.


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Re: What If... : Sun May 24, 2009 10:11 am  
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So with a new coach we'd still be 13th in the league.


Dunno, is the short answer. We haven`t got another coach so it`s all hypothetical. We might have been bottom, who knows.

If we`d been regularly hammered I`d be more concerned, but we`ve generally been competitive; if the players were showing any lack of spirit or involvement I`d be more bothered, but they`re not. The majority of games we`ve lost (or won) have been by around one score so clearly could have gone either way. With just on a bit of luck swinging one way or the other we COULD have been below Celtic.......... or in the top four.

Hopefully things will get better and the ball will bounce our way a little. Whatever happens this is no time for pointless knee jerks since, one of the few certainties in life is that all coaches are doomed to fail (on the basis of results and being sacked because of them), it goes with the territory; sack the Mac and get someone who has failed elsewhere, plus ca la change?

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Re: What If... : Sun May 24, 2009 10:21 am  
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Sense.

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Re: What If... : Sun May 24, 2009 11:21 am  
Bulliac wrote:
Sense


af wrote:
:CLAP: :thumb: :) :thumb: :CLAP:


What they said.

All that said, seems increasingly clear that there is a big issue with both confidence and motivation. Increasingly wondering if Macca is maybe an excellent technical coach, but is struggling to inspire them to perform to their best? That may help explain why other clubs with similar teams on paper (if that) are outperforming us. If that's the case, then we won't get anywhere under the present set-up. But I said "IF". Is there anyone on here sufficiently qualified to comment from first-hand experience, rather than just from their armchair? I'm sure not, so that's why I am asking.

And, again, even if we DO want a change, who would come on the sort of terms likely to be available? Someone above mentioned an upcoming guy from the NRL keen to try and make a name for himself as a stepping stone to top grade coaching in the NRL. Maybe that would be affordable?

What's so bugging me is that we seem to have been only just the wrong side of winning so many times. We got hammered by the Pies and the Wire, but we've been hammered in games in previous seasons and still gone on to do really well - so I'm discounting those - it happens. Its all those "other" games where were just not good enough that are the problem. And each time we saw the same - either we were doing fine, then let something in and suddenly collapsed and went into panic mode, or we started badly and could never really pull it back. Seems to me its locked in players' heads now, that's the trouble.

Either that or there are problems behind the scenes. If so, doubt the fans' forum will shed any light (obviously) but you never know.

For now though, I'll just echo what someone else sensible said above - I'm actually glad its two weeks till we have to endure all this again. :(
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