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O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:30 am  
Super League showing massive improvements in recent years I see.
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:46 am  
We will always be fighting a losing battle. It's the number 1 sport in certain parts of Australia, they play the game from a young age and it is played in schools/junior clubs etc. The game is flooded with money and is only going from strength to strength.

In contrast, the game over here is played by a tiny percentage of the population in a few counties, outside of which nobody gives a damn. We have very little money in our sport, the lion's share of which is immediately hoovered up by the elite clubs in an attempt to win some plaudits.

It will never improve until our game receives more national exposure and coverage, and honestly I can't see that happening any time soon.
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:25 am  
I think the RFL could do better attracting income into the game in the form of sponsorship. We don’t get the full value of the TV deal do we? If we did then Championship games would be televised which would enable clubs to attract more in sponsorship.

I’d like to see the RFL using some money to attract some proven marketing experts and some serious negotiators to ensure we attract and keep the best sponsors. Perhaps use some of Nigel’s apparent £200k+ annual salary. Is he really worth that?

While money from the likes of Heinz Big Soup and Foxy Bingo is welcome we need to do better.

The game over here is broke. Despite loudmouths like Koukash and Beaumont wanting to blow the salary cap open on overnight success clubs can’t compete financially with the NRL. While that’s the case our clubs will be weaker. The saving grace is that our better players end up over there and become better enabling us to compete internationally.

Salford are looking at attracting financial support from fans to aid their U16s and U19s development. FFS this is something they should be doing without needing fans to chip in. They should be all over the local area promoting the game, getting kids involved, helping their community clubs and providing a gold standard RL development pathway right up to their first team.

All SL clubs need to up their game in this dept instead of merging academies or having dual reg. We need to think long term to get more bang for the buck.
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:26 am  
All of the above is why I always feel we'll never be better than the Aussies. I've said many times before that the England team won't be better than them, even if we had the Aussie coach and all his backroom staff in charge of the team - except for the occasional one-off wins, of course. Well, I guess all the McNamara haters and others now have their chance to prove me wrong. Strangely I hope they do but I'm not holding my breath.

The day little kids in England wake up each morning and dream of being the next Sam Burgess and not the next Wayne Rooney is the time it will happen; same as Nothus, I can't see it happening soon.
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:43 am  
In earlier days of WCC the issue was Aus teams being undercooked and ours having started their season. This didn't necessarily lead to them losing, but did lead to a ready made excuse if they did, and a ready made diss to SL if they didn't.

Things have changed a bit for the better, but this year we all knew in advance that for varying reasons, none of our three teams was in a good place, and therefore were in for a flogging given that to a far greater degree the Aussies do take the comp more seriously, and, pound for pound, are of course better.

Leeds for example didn't do any worse than they have against SL clubs this season, even though obviously the opposition was far superior, but Leeds at this moment are in no fit state to play a team like that.

One thing is clear, though, the organisation of NRL teams, especially in defence, is at least a couple of levels better than we are used to, and in all three games, it was in some ways a little like watching the Bulls in demise when we would be in the opposition 20, yet never look likely to score. All the Aussie defences were superb, and a pleasure to watch.

But, despite our 3 teams all being known to be way off the UK pace, it was both predictable and disheartening how each ran out of steam and conceded a sequence of soft scores in the second half, during which let's be frank the Aus teams didn't have that much to do. So even if our teams had been playing well and were fully competitive, I don't think it would have made all that much difference.

They got shown up, and if there is one thing they should do it is spend hours analysing the defensive patterns and copying them.

I agree it is depressing but realistic to say that we are nowhere near an equal footing on a club level. Instead of our current playoffs and having a WCC maybe we should have a "Champions League" end of season comp between the top 4 teams in each country. That way, at least we'd be seeing the genuinely best the UK teams had to offer, both us and them honed after a full season. But whatever isolated attempts have been made have always ended in disaster and debacle for the English clubs and perhaps we now need to accept that the NRL has again pulled away from the SL and if the RL don't do something, it will only get worse. They won't do anything (largely because there is nowhere near comparable money to do so) and so it won't get any better.

All RL people are utterly defeatist, and we don't have the dynamic leadership, nor the belief, to change this. I am sadly old enough to remember when the current RU jamborees were just pencil notes on some drawing board, yet they got it done. All we ever do is whinge about "yes but no but" excuses as to why we can't.
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:58 am  
The teams in this country have only just started their season, which means they have'nt built up match fitness and I feel this is a disadvantage. The matches were too early in the season. I also think we need more dynamic people at the top of our sport. We seem to be going backwards instead of progressing and expanding. Until we broaden our horizons and attempt to promote our sport from the top we are going to struggle. Sponsors seem to be few and far between. I have to admit that the Bulls are far ahead with encouraging youngsters to support our game and until the RFL put plans in place for the whole of the game we are in a no win situation.
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:36 pm  
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The teams in this country have only just started their season, which means they have'nt built up match fitness and I feel this is a disadvantage. The matches were too early in the season.


A disadvantage for who? The NRL season doesn't start for another two weeks. For some of these aussie players, this weekend has been their first competitive game for months :lol:
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:58 pm  
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A disadvantage for who? The NRL season doesn't start for another two weeks. For some of these aussie players, this weekend has been their first competitive game for months :lol:

Sorry Nothus, no real interest in the NRL games
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:18 pm  
Its just a bit disappointing that the £1.2M donated to SL clubs by the Bulls hasn't been used to greater effect. Sorry to bring this up again but I can't help myself.
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Re: O/T World Club Series/ Challenge : Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:27 pm  
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Its just a bit disappointing that the £1.2M donated to SL clubs by the Bulls hasn't been used to greater effect. Sorry to bring this up again but I can't help myself.


Seems only right to bring it up, to me. After all, it's a very fair point!
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