Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:17 am  

Yes we are all passionate about the great team we used to support; but are we just being taken for a ride.
Lets run a poll for each game to see what percentage are going - and how much it changes as we get nearer the drop zone

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:06 am  

How about going because as a supporter you support through thick and thin (and in early Jan 2017 we didn't even exist!)

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:10 am  

To be honest, from the start I was struggling to muster much enthusiasm for ANOTHER season with a points deduction imposed. I expected I would be swept along for another ride with a bit of renewed hope and and optimism for a brighter future. Instead I feel like this whole season is a sham and I have no idea what my money is building towards. So it will be remaining in my pocket and at the moment I'm struggling to see why that will change again this year now.

The club will have a massive marketing job on their hands for next year, especially if as expected we start in NL1 after a completely wasted year of hammerings. I'm beginning to wonder if they're living in their own little world up at Odsal or perhaps underestimate just how p1ssed off the fans are becoming. Let's hope they realise before they down to the last 1000 or so fans.

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:15 am  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

How about going because as a supporter you support through thick and thin (and in early Jan 2017 we didn't even exist!)

That comes under "going because I want to" or "going for another reason"

I couldnt list Every reason for going or not going so i left so miscellaneous ones to capture every other reason

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:16 am  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

How about going because as a supporter you support through thick and thin (and in early Jan 2017 we didn't even exist!)

That's original. Come along and hand over your cash because we should just be grateful to have a side... Do you work at the club? I think that line has worn pretty thin now after the various admins.

I think Bradford Bulls actually have some of the most loyal and patient fans in the game and have proven that in the last few years. But there comes a point for most people when they see they're being taken for granted and treated like a mug and decide enough is enough.

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:44 am  

Bully_Boxer wrote:

That's original. Come along and hand over your cash because we should just be grateful to have a side... Do you work at the club? I think that line has worn pretty thin now after the various admins.

I think Bradford Bulls actually have some of the most loyal and patient fans in the game and have proven that in the last few years. But there comes a point for most people when they see they're being taken for granted and treated like a mug and decide enough is enough.

well said

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:00 am  

No I don't work for the club, just been going about 38 yrs and still plan to support where I can. If you don't want to go, don't f&@king bother then.

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:23 am  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

No I don't work for the club, just been going about 38 yrs and still plan to support where I can. If you don't want to go, don't f&@king bother then.

Well I'd actually like to see the club move forward and engage. For some fans it seems to be a contest to prove just how much of a fanatic you are. That's great in a way but personally I draw the line when I feel I'm being taken for an idiot and lied to. Perhaps open your eyes and remove the rose tinted spectacles and consider the club needs to engage at all levels of support, not just 'super fans'. Criticising fans who may have been going just as long and who have also spent similar amounts on the club over the years isn't particularly helpful in my opinion. I feel we are at the point where loyal fans have had enough, but could still be held onto if the club pull their act together and begin communicating honestly.

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:38 am  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

If you don't want to go, don't f&@king bother then.

You should get a job in the marketing department at Odsal

For me, the option about not dancing to Cha-Lo's tune was the closest. I'm just completely burned out on everything that's happened over the last few years. And with what amounts to absentee landlords in 'control' (if, indeed, they are actually in control... who really knows?) it just seems like a waste of time, energy and money to trog over to Odsal every other Sunday.

Re: Loyalty or blind ignorance : Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:46 am  

Bets'y Bulls wrote:

No I don't work for the club, just been going about 38 yrs and still plan to support where I can. If you don't want to go, don't f&@king bother then.

OK, if it's a piss1ng contest I have been going since 1966 which is ever so many years. And I have seen us be mostly ca4p but in those days teams were what they were. I won't be going for several reasons.
1. I am sick of being taken for a ride.
2. I'm sick of getting home from games in a foul mood.
3. I'm sick of supporting the youngsters that we develop only to see them be cherry picked by SL clubs whose (or is it who's) fans then come on here telling us we should be cutting our cloth blah, blah, blah
4. I'm sick of being told it's my fault we are bad because I don't spend enough at the club. (perhaps we should all arrange to have our wages paid to them directly and the club just give us pocket money once a week)
5. I'm sick of the idiots that run the game 'selling' the league sponsorship for a deal that involves painting a some lorries.
6. I'm sick of the idiots that run the game selling long term TV sponsorship at a cut price.
7. I'm sick of being asked to raise £500k in two weeks to avoid going into admin only to be put into admin by two guys involved in another p1ss1ng contest.
8. I'm sick of paying SL prices to watch a team of journeymen that couldn't give a toss whether they get promoted or not.
9. I'm sick of getting within a hair's breadth of safety only to find out that when you turn around looking for support from the owners it's not there.
Think that covers it, but more significantly I watch SL games on TV and say "You know what, I'm not that bothered whether we get back or not.