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Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:53 pm  
nestegg wrote:
In our last post dated 13 November we said that and we quote .... "unless it proves to be absolutely necessary we will not post (on this forum) for a while".

Given the peculiar and distracting events of the past 24 hours or so re this so called lottery matter as reported in the Guardian, albeit only online, then we felt that it may be helpful to set the record straight about a few things:

1) The article is in effect not the so called wide ranging 'smoking gun' to which we have referred to in the past.

2) Moreover, said online Guardian article, when linked to their historic article dated 3 January 2017, is regrettably (re a few key points) somewhat vague and non-specific. The two articles when combined are in part factually incorrect, in particular re events that occurred in respect of the RFL and a related (inaccurate) press statement the RFL (or Nigel Wood) released to the press and media on 3 January 2017. Up until recently we had though highly of the Guardian, and on balance we still manitain that they are for the main part reliable. Sadly, however, said newspaper has for years promulgated a key piece of mis-information re a Bulls' timeline chronology covering the club's past 7-8 year period. Journalists have had almost three years to correct the blatant error that was made by the RFL on 3 January 2017. Why have they not done so? Don't ask us - we are not journalists.

3) That is all we have to say at this time in respect of this apparently unhelpful distraction.

We hope (but sadly do not anticipate) that the above 'statement' will bring an end to the plethora of idle speculation and rumour surrounding this current virtual non-story.

Whilst posting may we affirm that 'we' are NOT operating on any other social media. This excellent forum is the only vehicle we require to project certain key messages to those who may allegedly be ruining our great club, and/or gradually leading the wider UK public, and key investors, to seriously question the credibility and governance of the sport of Rugby League.

Anyhow, enough of the lottery 'story' current nonsense, we need to get back to 'walking the walk'.


Im glad you took my advice after you PM'd me and posted on here to set the record straight. :wink:
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:03 pm  
Yawn, ZZZzzzzzz
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:26 pm  
Laughable and ironic that Pestegg is basically calling out idle speculation
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:55 pm  
Is anyone still paying attention to the rubbish they are posting?.
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:13 pm  
DrFeelgood wrote:
I think the council would take a far more pragmatic view of the situation than just viewing it as an illegal gambling operation. The question of intent to conduct an illegal operation would surely be considered.


LAs are only responsible for registering 'small' lotteries, the rules under which they are allowed to operate (contained in The Gambling Act 2005) are enforced by the Gambling Commission. Government Agencies are not renowned for being pragmatic.....
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:58 am  
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Is anyone still paying attention to the rubbish they are posting?.


No. Just let him waste his time so we can laugh at him. Has he stopped posting again - until the next time he posts.
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:04 pm  
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LAs are only responsible for registering 'small' lotteries, the rules under which they are allowed to operate (contained in The Gambling Act 2005) are enforced by the Gambling Commission. Government Agencies are not renowned for being pragmatic.....

So how is a small lottery defined? Where does the Big One sit?
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:32 pm  
nestegg wrote:
In our last post dated 13 November we said that and we quote .... "unless it proves to be absolutely necessary we will not post (on this forum) for a while".

Given the peculiar and distracting events of the past 24 hours or so re this so called lottery matter as reported in the Guardian, albeit only online, then we felt that it may be helpful to set the record straight about a few things:

1) The article is in effect not the so called wide ranging 'smoking gun' to which we have referred to in the past.

2) Moreover, said online Guardian article, when linked to their historic article dated 3 January 2017, is regrettably (re a few key points) somewhat vague and non-specific. The two articles when combined are in part factually incorrect, in particular re events that occurred in respect of the RFL and a related (inaccurate) press statement the RFL (or Nigel Wood) released to the press and media on 3 January 2017. Up until recently we had though highly of the Guardian, and on balance we still manitain that they are for the main part reliable. Sadly, however, said newspaper has for years promulgated a key piece of mis-information re a Bulls' timeline chronology covering the club's past 7-8 year period. Journalists have had almost three years to correct the blatant error that was made by the RFL on 3 January 2017. Why have they not done so? Don't ask us - we are not journalists.

3) That is all we have to say at this time in respect of this apparently unhelpful distraction.

We hope (but sadly do not anticipate) that the above 'statement' will bring an end to the plethora of idle speculation and rumour surrounding this current virtual non-story.

Whilst posting may we affirm that 'we' are NOT operating on any other social media. This excellent forum is the only vehicle we require to project certain key messages to those who may allegedly be ruining our great club, and/or gradually leading the wider UK public, and key investors, to seriously question the credibility and governance of the sport of Rugby League.

Anyhow, enough of the lottery 'story' current nonsense, we need to get back to 'walking the walk'.

I'm ignorant, so can you point out what this error is, please?
Also, what is the smoking gun you are forever eluding to?
Your posts seem to be much a do about nothing, rather than a tempest.
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:27 pm  
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So how is a small lottery defined? Where does the Big One sit?


A 'small' lottery is one that has less than £20k of tickets for sale and which has annual proceeds of no more than £250k and needs only to be registered with the LA. For 'large' lotteries a Gambling Commission licence is required. From the limited information that has come out it would appear that the Big One is a small lottery.
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Re: Bulls Takeover : Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:08 am  
Mr Dog wrote:
A 'small' lottery is one that has less than £20k of tickets for sale and which has annual proceeds of no more than £250k and needs only to be registered with the LA. For 'large' lotteries a Gambling Commission licence is required. From the limited information that has come out it would appear that the Big One is a small lottery.

So in that case it will be handled by the LA?
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