RFL and Wakey signing : Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:57 am  

The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein.

This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him playing for Samoa (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria).

If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing.

The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players.

The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in.

This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:03 am  

I thought Samoans got through on the EU/Kolpak ruling, as exempt from quota?

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:05 am  

Don't the Home Office have their own criteria when it comes to granting work permits? (Something like "must have played certain %age of NRL / internationals?).

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:06 am  

Richie wrote:

I thought Samoans got through on the EU/Kolpak ruling, as exempt from quota?

Under the old system, yes (provided that they could get a work permit).

The quota today is based on where a player was trained, not on their nationality. You could be an Australian and still be considered as a 'home trained' player.

Re: RFL and Wakey signing : Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:09 am  

Marsdengiant wrote:

This is not anti wakey.

No really Aye O.K

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:11 am  

bramleyrhino wrote:

The quota today is based on where a player was trained, not on their nationality. You could be an Australian and still be considered as a 'home trained' player.

I'm pretty sure Shad Royston @ Halifax falls under that criteria if thats a help to anyone.

Re: RFL and Wakey signing : Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:38 am  

Marsdengiant wrote: The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein. This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him playing for Samoa (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria). If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing. The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players. The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in. This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay. http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source= Think this may be the same Frankie playing for Samoa against England and scoring. Think he also played for Samoa v Tonga Sept 2006.

Marsdengiant wrote: The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein. This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him playing for Samoa (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria). If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing. The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players. The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in. This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay. http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source= Think this may be the same Frankie playing for Samoa against England and scoring. Think he also played for Samoa v Tonga Sept 2006.

Re: RFL and Wakey signing : Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:41 am  

Marsdengiant wrote:

The press says wakey are planning to sign Frank Winterstein.

This guy has played only 4/5 NRL games (so he is nowhere near the 50% RFL criteria) and there is no evidence of him [b]playing for Samoa[/b] (being a squad member does not meet RFL criteria).

If this guy is to be allowed in then the RFL will have to give it their blessing.

The whole point of the rules is to ensure overseas players in SL have some proven quality. That we are not displacing British prospects with unproven overseas players.

The RFl should stick to their criteria and not allow Winterstein in.

This is not anti wakey. For eg I have no objection to Stosic being given the okay.

And how do you know this?

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:46 am  

Googled him but can't find any proof whether or not he has played for Samoa.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:48 am  

No1_Saints _Fan wrote: Googled him but can't find any proof whether or not he has played for Samoa. http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source= Think he was actually on the books of Sydney Roosters at the time,unless this is a completely different Frank Winterstein

No1_Saints _Fan wrote: Googled him but can't find any proof whether or not he has played for Samoa. http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/rugby/arti ... _a_source= Think he was actually on the books of Sydney Roosters at the time,unless this is a completely different Frank Winterstein