: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:44 pm  

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 2009&hp2=7 Wigans problems solved Mr Noble, stop your players missing tackles, top of the table in something then

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 2009&hp2=7 Wigans problems solved Mr Noble, stop your players missing tackles, top of the table in something then

Re: Statos : Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:53 pm  

tvoc wrote:

At Leeds (for example) the team has a total of 3 missed tackles after 3 games while the Leeds players that played have missed a combined total of 66.

I've never understood how that works.

I'm guessing that if a player misses a tackle but one or more of his teammates stops the opponent it counts as an individual missed tackle but not a team missed tackle. In which case each team missed tackle presumably results in a try, with the other tries conceded happening when nobody gets close enough to attempt a tackle.

I could be wrong - it wouldn't be the first or last time.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:56 pm  

Someones already at it on our forum, comparing Gardner and Raynor. Knew it wouldn't take long!

Re: Statos : Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:58 pm  

Paul124897 wrote:

I'm either walking into a troll trap here, or you don't know that Webb hasn't played so far this year?

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:02 pm  

No comparison between Webb and Wellens IMO. Wellens would be 3rd choice FB at Leeds. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

No comparison between Webb and Wellens IMO. Wellens would be 3rd choice FB at Leeds. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:10 pm  

Hollywood Harrigan wrote: No comparison between Webb and Wellens IMO. Wellens would be 3rd choice FB at Leeds. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 You always get one.

Hollywood Harrigan wrote: No comparison between Webb and Wellens IMO. Wellens would be 3rd choice FB at Leeds. http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 You always get one.

: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:11 pm  

Ashy wrote:

You always get one.

Actually its the opposite way around

Re: Statos : Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:16 pm  

John Charnock wrote:

I'm guessing that if a player misses a tackle but one or more of his teammates stops the opponent it counts as an individual missed tackle but not a team missed tackle. In which case each team missed tackle presumably results in a try, with the other tries conceded happening when nobody gets close enough to attempt a tackle.

I could be wrong - it wouldn't be the first or last time.

Now would be a good time to test the theory.

Leeds have only conceded two tries in the three games and both of those were from kicks so not really as a result of missed tackles.

Need to keep thinking about this one.

Re: Statos : Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:09 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Leeds have only conceded two tries in the three games and both of those were from kicks so not really as a result of missed tackles.

Need to keep thinking about this one.

Possibly these team missed tackles, rather than missing someone running with the ball, missed a kicker who then got his kick away. In this situation a team missed tackle need not result in an opposition try.

I knew I'd get something wrong.

Re: Statos : Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:42 pm  

John Charnock wrote:

Possibly these team missed tackles, rather than missing someone running with the ball, missed a kicker who then got his kick away. In this situation a team missed tackle need not result in an opposition try.

I knew I'd get something wrong.

But then you'd expect there'd be many more than three 'missed tackles' accumulated in 240 minutes, so I'm not buying that interpretation either.

Without an explanation from Opta I think we're p1ssing in the wind on this one.

In another early season query, Paul McShane (Leeds) has got two (fairly identical) passes away for tries. The one to Lee Smith V Celtic (Sky) was deemed worthy of a try assist from Opta, the one to Ryan Hall V Hull KR (Sky) wasn't. If anything he did slightly more for the Hall try than the Smith one.

If such alarming discrepancies are typical, they render anything Opta come out with as fairly worthless.