: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:10 pm  

Shocking behaviour from cas fans, and very disappointing.

In my opinion though, as well as investigating the culprits in the crowd, the RFL need to look at what happened to make fans react this way. Ultimately, the referee is responsible for the players and spectators in a match. He influences what happens, and if he had policed the game better then perhaps there wouldn't have been so much discontent in the crowd.

Obviously i'm not saying that throwing bottles onto the pitch is an acceptable way to show your frustrations, but the crowd were frustrated none the less, and a lot of that lies on the shoulders of the referee.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:11 pm  

There's never any justification for throwing anything on to the field but as the hooter went, Elima and a few other Catalan players started making hand gestures to the crowd right in front of the WRE. That's when the bottles started.

[Wildthing]

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:13 pm  

To make an example of Cas as a club is very harsh, 99% of the fans were fine, just a few mindless idiots .... surely deal harshly with the idiots and ban them for life, not fair on the players, fans and backroom staff to dock points etc.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:18 pm  

don't knock points off, just close the stadium for a game to the fans.
The lost revenue would be a better punishment and would force the backroom people to work harder to stamp it out.

[Wildthing]

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:20 pm  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

don't knock points off, just close the stadium for a game to the fans.
The lost revenue would be a better punishment and would force the backroom people to work harder to stamp it out.

Again though 99% of decent fans suffer for a few mindless idiots, not fair in my book. Let Cas sort it out the RFL and deal very harshly with those idiots IMO.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:20 pm  

It would be hard to blame the Catalan fans either, as I guess they weren't travelling in numbers for it ....

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:24 pm  

Wildthing wrote:

Again though 99% of decent fans suffer for a few mindless idiots, not fair in my book. Let Cas sort it out the RFL and deal very harshly with those idiots IMO.

i know that most fans are good but sometimes it's a necessary evil.

it makes decent fans shop bad people in too

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:25 pm  

I think we need more stewarding. The stewards at Halifax often get criticised for being ineffective but in our home match against Leigh, the chants got pretty abusive and "adult rated". Two stewards asked a group of Leigh fans to stop the abuse. Amazingly - they co-operated and stopped. I think also that other more responsible fans stood nearby can (in unison) try and calm the trouble makers down. I've seen it happen loads of times and it's quite effective.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:26 pm  

peter parker wrote:

Shocking behaviour from cas fans, and very disappointing.

In my opinion though, as well as investigating the culprits in the crowd, the RFL need to look at what happened to make fans react this way. Ultimately, the referee is responsible for the players and spectators in a match. He influences what happens, and if he had policed the game better then perhaps there wouldn't have been so much discontent in the crowd.

Obviously i'm not saying that throwing bottles onto the pitch is an acceptable way to show your frustrations, but the crowd were frustrated none the less, and a lot of that lies on the shoulders of the referee.

What absolute tosh!!!

So if there is a problem it is someone else who has caused it?

Since when has a referee been responsible for any player or spectator?

What would like them to do?

Wipe their backsides if they go to the loo?

Buy them a pint if they are thirsty?

Smooth the players furrowed brows when they drop the ball, miss a tackle, stand off side etc., etc..

No the answer is the people who caused the problem are people who limited intelligence who probably think society owes them everything and they owe society nothing.

And it's DEFINITELY not their fault no matter what happens.

It's about time they took PERSONAL responsibility for their actions and suffer the subsequent reactions.

: Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:34 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

What absolute tosh!!!

So if there is a problem it is someone else who has caused it?

Since when has a referee been responsible for any player or spectator?

What would like them to do?

Wipe their backsides if they go to the loo?

Buy them a pint if they are thirsty?

Smooth the players furrowed brows when they drop the ball, miss a tackle, stand off side etc., etc..

No the answer is the people who caused the problem are people who limited intelligence who probably think society owes them everything and they owe society nothing.

And it's DEFINITELY not their fault no matter what happens.

It's about time they took PERSONAL responsibility for their actions and suffer the subsequent reactions.

Spot on!
I've been going to Rugby League games for over 20 years and in that time i have had many Referee's decision go against my team which had cost us games - i have been seething at some refereeing performances BUT i have never ever resorted to throwing missiles at a match official and i should imagine as i have reached a quite mature age i never will !