: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:49 pm  

Mr. Zucchini Head wrote:

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Kid where did they drag him from

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:04 pm  

Keyboard Warrior wrote:

Kid where did they drag him from

Featherstone. In fact every good young talent in this country is from Featherstone but just like Brazil in football its natives will have to emigrate elsewhere to make a name for themselves!

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:45 pm  

All these great yougsters from GB and guess i thinks the best Rangi Chase a Kiwi.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:11 pm  

Birstalltiger wrote:

All these great yougsters from GB and guess i thinks the best Rangi Chase a Kiwi.

You would.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:51 pm  

You've always had these types in England.


Players who's only positive is that they are not yet 30 years old. They show little, get praised as the greats of the future, get over paid, under worked, they glide through a half hearted career, lauded by the English anyway, and they get to be 32 year olds who never developed their game beyond their teenage years.



How many of these players are special, really blow you away special?

Israel Folau has just turned 20, that is something to write home about. Two Origin series, a Grand Final, youngest Kangaroo's player in history. Thats making news.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:54 pm  

The Glorious League Freak wrote:

You've always had these types in England.


Players who's only positive is that they are not yet 30 years old. They show little, get praised as the greats of the future, get over paid, under worked, they glide through a half hearted career, lauded by the English anyway, and they get to be 32 year olds who never developed their game beyond their teenage years.



How many of these players are special, really blow you away special?

Israel Folau has just turned 20, that is something to write home about. Two Origin series, a Grand Final, youngest Kangaroo's player in history. WORLD CUP LOSING FINALIST Thats making news.

[Frosties.]

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:55 pm  

cadoo wrote:

Who do people fancy for young player of the year?

Ryan Hall? 21?

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:08 am  

Wire_Yed_79, Folau is 20 and has played in a World Cup Final. Yeah, they lost, we all saw that.


So what have these supposed news makers done? What....an away win at Castleford? I mean, is that really the standard now in England?

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:37 am  

The amazing thing is on so many threads you hear people talking about players even as old as 20 who in many people's opinion need to 'wait a few years' before they become regulars. It's bizarre. In the case of Ryan Hall - who came to league late IIRC so his age is a tad misleading - a few Leeds fans have been talking about him moving to second row. Thank gawd none of them are coaches.

To me it highlights a couple of problems - one being that the quality of the games played at Academy level are simply not good enough if kids are getting into the first team with glaring deficiences. It's no surprise that a number of clubs are preferring to loan players out to NL or even other SL sides rather than have them play Academy level. I still think sending out the best of each year's batch of English lads to train and play with NRL juniors would make an enormous difference to their development.

It's also a crying shame that absolutely average overseas players who will never improve their game are in some cases keeping young English players who are probably only marginally worse out of the team. That's the main reason we absolutely have to reduce the number of overseas players.

But seriously, when you read just about any club's MB on here, it appears that a significant number of fans seriously don't believe anyone can make regular first grade until they are about 23. That's as big a crock now as it was 30 years ago.

: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:45 pm  

The Glorious League Freak wrote:

You've always had these types in England.


Players who's only positive is that they are not yet 30 years old. They show little, get praised as the greats of the future, get over paid, under worked, they glide through a half hearted career, lauded by the English anyway, and they get to be 32 year olds who never developed their game beyond their teenage years.



How many of these players are special, really blow you away special?

Israel Folau has just turned 20, that is something to write home about. Two Origin series, a Grand Final, youngest Kangaroo's player in history. Thats making news.

Folou is just a freak though, he's the exception, not the rule.

Most of the players mentioned are every bit as good (or at least can be) as the majority of young Aussie kids coming through.