Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:35 am  

Wanderer wrote:

P+R but not at the creation of boom & bust so the above suggestion appeals.

So what if more than one team qualifies? Theres nothing to stop the qualifying clubs going boom and bust mid way through the season in an attempt to better their qualifying rivals. On top of that you'll have struggling Super League clubs going boom and bust trying to avoid that bottom spot by splashing the cash on a wave of mid season signings.

Basically you'll still have the P&R mentality pre-2008 which worked wonders, didn't it?

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:40 am  

Peckerwood wrote:

So what if more than one team qualifies? Theres nothing to stop the qualifying clubs going boom and bust mid way through the season in an attempt to better their qualifying rivals. On top of that you'll have struggling Super League clubs going boom and bust trying to avoid that bottom spot by splashing the cash on a wave of mid season signings.

Basically you'll still have the P&R mentality pre-2008 which worked wonders, didn't it?

2 SL clubs have gone bust since P+R was removed (one of them twice), both languish at the bottom of the table - it makes no difference if you get relegated or not, clubs still have to spend money to be succesful!

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:48 am  

Definitely the franchise system, for the long term future of the game.

All these new grounds springing up are a direct result of this system, as are the much improved youth development structures, particularly within those clubs that have previously been up and down like yo-yos, and had to rely on short-term signings to try to either gain promotion or avoid relegation.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:31 pm  

Mr Slithers wrote:

One of the main problems with the franchise system is that they keep teams in who are bottom year after year...

as yourseIves then

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:40 pm  

Geoff wrote:

Definitely the franchise system, for the long term future of the game.

All these new grounds springing up are a direct result of this system, as are the much improved youth development structures, particularly within those clubs that have previously been up and down like yo-yos, and had to rely on short-term signings to try to either gain promotion or avoid relegation.

Exactly, the franchise system is encouraging teams to strengthen across the board which in the long run can only be a good thing.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:58 pm  

P&R but with minimum ground standards, a bit of a bastardizastion of both.
The RFL would understand about that.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:29 pm  

I'd have a mixture of both, 3 year point added up, lowest going down, that 1st season is always going to be a killer for whoever comes up.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:38 pm  

If we'd got p&r then Cats wouldn't be fifth now. And I don't think that would be a good thing. No promoted team would ever get above being a yo-yo team.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:51 pm  

adelaide-giant.no9 wrote:

one of the main problems with p and r is the difference in salary caps when a team gets relegated or promoted ..

So why not address the difference in salary caps rather than introduce a ridiculous franchise system?

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:58 pm  

Bubba wrote:

So why not address the difference in salary caps rather than introduce a ridiculous franchise system?

I'm not sure the RFL has £10 million to spare to bring the Championship salary cap up to SL, and reducing the SL salary cap would be a disaster.

Franchising for the medium/long term until there are 14/16 top flight clubs who are sustainable and relatively competitive on and off the pitch. Plus a Championship where at least 4 or 5 clubs are capable of replacing SL clubs. At that point and only at that point should P&R be re-introduced.