Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:17 pm  

McDermott's argument would make sense, if it wasn't for the fact that they are spending massive money on individual players.
It's like that one friend that everyone has who claims to be destitute, but spends their life flying to exotic private islands and shopping in Waitrose.

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:30 pm  

They put all their eggs in one basket when they paid a fortune to sign Sonny Bill Williams, and even funnier that they have no idea when he might actually get to play for them, absolutely priceless. Well done to all concerned !

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:35 pm  

Kennedy wrote:

They put all their eggs in one basket when they paid a fortune to sign Sonny Bill Williams, and even funnier that they have no idea when he might actually get to play for them, absolutely priceless. Well done to all concerned !

It's Willie Mason all over again.

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:41 pm  

Kennedy wrote:

They put all their eggs in one basket when they paid a fortune to sign Sonny Bill Williams, and even funnier that they have no idea when he might actually get to play for them, absolutely priceless. Well done to all concerned !

He’s not the main issue though is he? Or Leutele as they are marquee players. It’s the £100k contracts handed out to mediocre Superleague players. O’Brien had his salary doubled when he signed from Salford for example.

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:03 pm  

Just one word for McDermott and TWP , unlucky.
Who do they think they are ??

Should we change the cap rules everytime a club gets promoted from the Championship.

It's worrying that their squad from last season is so expensive and that they are committed to the same (just about) group of players.
As other posters have suggested, they seem to be stuffed for going with such an expensive squad last season, who appear on the face of it to have been massively overpaid.

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:13 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Just one word for McDermott and TWP , unlucky.
Who do they think they are ??

Should we change the cap rules everytime a club gets promoted from the Championship.

It's worrying that their squad from last season is so expensive and that they are committed to the same (just about) group of players.
As other posters have suggested, they seem to be stuffed for going with such an expensive squad last season, who appear on the face of it to have been massively overpaid.

Indeed, very dangerous precedents could be set.

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:09 pm  

notorious wrote:

He’s not the main issue though is he? Or Leutele as they are marquee players. It’s the £100k contracts handed out to mediocre Superleague players. O’Brien had his salary doubled when he signed from Salford for example.

Well whose to blame for that?

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:16 pm  

notorious wrote:

He’s not the main issue though is he? Or Leutele as they are marquee players. It’s the £100k contracts handed out to mediocre Superleague players. O’Brien had his salary doubled when he signed from Salford for example.

Correct, SBW and Luetele will obviously count for their £150k per year, but nothing more than that. They are overpaying average players, which is always the case when you have a club in the championship / bottom of SL trying to spend big to sign the best - players want to be paid more to play for lower placed clubs.

I think the complaint is that players have to house themselves in Toronto, as well as pay for a house back home in the UK as the families aren't going to move to Toronto full time given the players are in the UK more than half the time anyway. I understand the argument, but it will be a tough one to get the SL chairmen to agree on. When Catalan play games in the UK I presume the cost of housing them in hotels will be classed as an operating expense and not a perk. The RFL obviously classify the Toronto situation differently as they will be living there for a number of weeks and it is there home patch.

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:19 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

McDermott's argument would make sense, if it wasn't for the fact that they are spending massive money on individual players.
It's like that one friend that everyone has who claims to be destitute, but spends their life flying to exotic private islands and shopping in Waitrose.

That's a long way to travel just to pop into Waitrose for a few provisions. Some friend indeed if they cry poverty!

Re: Dispensation Requests and the Salary Cap : Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:30 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

Correct, SBW and Luetele will obviously count for their £150k per year, but nothing more than that. They are overpaying average players, which is always the case when you have a club in the championship / bottom of SL trying to spend big to sign the best - players want to be paid more to play for lower placed clubs.

I think the complaint is that players have to house themselves in Toronto, as well as pay for a house back home in the UK as the families aren't going to move to Toronto full time given the players are in the UK more than half the time anyway. I understand the argument, but it will be a tough one to get the SL chairmen to agree on. When Catalan play games in the UK I presume the cost of housing them in hotels will be classed as an operating expense and not a perk. The RFL obviously classify the Toronto situation differently as they will be living there for a number of weeks and it is there home patch.

And we all thought that Toronto was the dream destination for RL players

On the subject of "non playing" costs. It must cost them a small fortune to come accross to Europe, even if this is in 2 game blocks.
However, I'm sure that this was fully thought through before they began chasing the SL dream and there is extra cost for the existing SL clubs (going in the other direction) - not exactly ideal when most SL clubs are barely keeping their heads above water.
And there are some who believe that SL should include 4/5 such clubs, along with 2 French sides