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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:52 pm  
Andy Gilder wrote:
Andy Gregory? Seriously?

Couldn't pass any distance to his left. Hardly indicative of a world class half-back.



Come on Andy. You and I both know that Gregory could pass a long distance to his left if he turned his back to the opposition.

It didn’t impede him much.

I’ve seen lots of scrum halves that can throw a long pass in either direction and most aren’t as good as Gregory was.

Or did you just watch him at Leeds?
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Wed Nov 05, 2014 12:58 pm  
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:00 pm  
Has Jean hacked your account?
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:25 pm  
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Doesn't count if you're going on history books. We all know he's a Hall of Fame original.

Did you see him ? And at his peak ?
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:29 pm  
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:44 pm  
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:54 pm  
Unfortunately the question is actually going to be answered as who is your favourite player.
If you like backs rather than forwards or have seen more of your team and not much international, or you watched a particular era, it will sway your view.

If we do it by stats then Neil Fox is a serious contender
If we do it by effectiveness at club level then Ellery is a leader too
If we look at Internationals then the Aussies would be in the lead from 80s through till now.

Personally, Wally Lewis is the most effective, driven and skillful player I've seen, both in person and on tv. He has the advantage of playing with some great players at a great time for his teams......but in his case he made the others function and look good, rather than him looking good because of his team mates.
It's probably not used much now but I can't think of anyone else who has a part of the game or skill named after him. For a long time through 80s and 90s, a "very" long pass was called a Wally Lewis pass.
He was exceptional.
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:15 pm  
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:29 am  
Genuine question, for those who remember, how good was Stevo?
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Re: Greatest player of all time? : Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:56 am  
Stevo was a superb hooker and played a game that was ahead of his time.
Good hands, scooted quite a lot, had some pace and a terrific defender.

He went to Penrith and was a revelation along with another England hooker who IMO was better than Stevo, John Gray. You almost never ever hear anything about Gray but he was the standout English import in Australia for a number of years.

A mark of just how good he was is that in 1982, the year of the Invincible Kangaroos captained by Manly hooker Max Krillich, John Gray won the Dally M Hooker of the Year in the Winfield Cup (NRL).
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