: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:01 pm  

Marsdengiant wrote:

i thanked you for the link to the cutting.

I still think it is a shambles to resort to signing a reserve grader. You seem to think otherwise. so be it.

I dont think ive actuallty stated whether i agree with it or not,because i thought the topic was about the RFL sticking to criteria.

However it has diversified.

FWIW,Im not convinced that it is a good move,purely on the grounds that its another over seas player.

Unfortunately that is not the only grounds for making the decision to bring him over.

Is there a player of similar ability and potential that is Available and British,quite possibly - Will he sign for the same money? Possibly not.

So looking at it from a financial prospective the overseas player may be worth more of a gamble than the British player.
Im not saying its right ,but i can understand why we still have fringe NRL players coming over.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:03 pm  

SimonBarrett wrote:

What point, that wakey actually stack up quite well using your own info as comparison?

Westwood, Mason, Blaymire, Brough, Snitch, Ferguson, Pitts, Bibb, Murphy Griffin, Blake......all playing in Super League right now!

add Ellis to that list who's now in the NRL

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:15 pm  

Oh boo freakin hoo...
This board sometimes gets too full of arrogant planks who won't listen to either side of an argument, hence we have 8 pages saying the same bleedin thing.
Can tell i've had a bad day, FWIW I don't particularly agree with the signing but I understand their reasons, can see their point of view and aren't going to spend an hour of my life sat arguing the toss about it.
Besides Wakey are working hard to rectify issues that maybe were there a few years back and like most clubs moving in the right direction.
I suggest old Smokey finds a hobby

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:30 pm  

Didnt Hull FC sign a relatively unknown prop from Aus recently,cant remember his name.But i dont remember them getting aload of flack for it.

I take into account HullFC have an excellent record in junior development.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:42 pm  

vastman wrote:

I'll tell you this much I suspect Winterstien will likely bring more to SL than Greg Eastwood will should he ever arrive.

Vasty, what the hell?

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:50 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I'll never forget the hype at Hudds about Rod "the rocket" Jensen. What a quality signing he turned out to be.

Jensen was treated like dirt by certain members of the Huddersfield senior management team and board of directors which accounted for his alarming dip in form, before this he was a very good player for the club. Either way, he had a much better NRL pedigree than someone like Winterstein.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:52 pm  

Marsdengiant wrote:

Nothing avoided old dear. Your guy said wakey had been in SL 10 years and developing a system takes time i asked how long.

SimonBarrett wrote:

l dont know? Do you?

How does your club stack up over the same time span re youth development???

Marsdengiant wrote:

I was very pleased that we beat Catalans with only 2 overseas players and I would be very disappointed if after a decade of continuous SL presence the Giants started signing NRL reserve graders. it would be a backward step.

Yep, you're right, you didn't avoid the question at all.

Oh, I'm sure a certain Michael Korkidas was a NRL reserve grader and perhaps still would be if he was on the books of an NRL club!

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:59 pm  

Wakefield have been short of a big second row forward with an off load game since Solomona left. Now I am not for one minute suggesting that this kid is the next Solomona (before someone jumps in), but he has the attributes mentioned above that tend to be more prevalent in the South Sea Islanders than UK born players.

The guy is still relatively young and his style of play is probably more suited to the Superleague than the NRL (which is more defensively orientated). Lets save opinion on the validity of the signing until he has actually arrived and can be judged on his performances on the field.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:02 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Wakefield have been short of a big second row forward with an off load game since Solomona left. Now I am not for one minute suggesting that this kid is the next Solomona (before someone jumps in), but he has the attributes mentioned above that tend to be more prevalent in the South Sea Islanders than UK born players.

The guy is still relatively young and his style of play is probably more suited to the Superleague than the NRL (which is more defensively orientated). Lets save opinion on the validity of the signing until he has actually arrived and can be judged on his performances on the field.

At last a sensible post !!

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:10 pm  

Tricky2309 wrote:

Wakefield have been short of a big second row forward with an off load game since Solomona left. Now I am not for one minute suggesting that this kid is the next Solomona (before someone jumps in), but he has the attributes mentioned above that tend to be more prevalent in the South Sea Islanders than UK born players.

The guy is still relatively young and his style of play is probably more suited to the Superleague than the NRL (which is more defensively orientated). Lets save opinion on the validity of the signing until he has actually arrived and can be judged on his performances on the field.

There's 8 pages of an argument provoked by two Hudds fans with an agenda, backed by a Leeds fan with an ego and fallen for by a few of our lot, no place for common sense here