: Wed Jul 15, 2009 11:04 am  

Starbug wrote:

Given that the Co-oP sponsorship of the league consists of only money [ £4,000 ] paid to the home teams when they are on TV and those clubs are then obliged to give out 200 family tickets it would seem fair to suggest that a large number of fans would have been admitted with those

It is true that many others may well have paid to watch their little darlings perform and as I said , well done

The point being the question asked was about ' Marketing teams '

Who has them and who doesn't ?

so it was or wasnt most?

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:54 pm  

jannerboyuk wrote:

so it was or wasnt most?

Dont care either way to tell the truth , original question was do they have a ' Marketing team ' ?

Or better still do any clubs have one [ By marketing team I mean 3/4
F/T people and a budget to spend ] , and if they dont should they and should that be part of a licence application ?

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:56 pm  

yes and no. In ideal world yes but are cubs going to spend 160k+ on a marketing team? Probably not. Every SL club should have to have an indicative budget imo that shows how much they will spend on marketing, jnr development, 1st team salary, coaching salaries etc. i would be happy to see the RFL set a % expectation on this.

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:17 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

yes and no. In ideal world yes but are cubs going to spend 160k+ on a marketing team? Probably not. Every SL club should have to have an indicative budget imo that shows how much they will spend on marketing, jnr development, 1st team salary, coaching salaries etc. i would be happy to see the RFL set a % expectation on this.

This is the post that got me onto the subject

Starbug wrote: What it needs is the RFL to start to actively help the clubs [ all 35 of them ] to increase crowds rather than constantly trying to get corporate/sugar daddy/sponsorship investement

One trick ponys

Dave T wrote
Surely each team has their own marketing team, and community workers who have this in their remit?

What next, is it going to be the RFL's job to sort out the pre-match entertainment?

The clubs between them have a hell of a lot more resources than the RFL, so why should this fall under the RFL?

This season we have seen initiatives like free Challenge Cup tickets, half priced Magic Weekend tickets for ST holders, over the past few years we have seen the emergence of home and away kids Season Tickets.

Do the FA or the RFU get involved with increasing their individual club's crowds?

The RFL do not necessarily have the local expertise to draw in the crowds in my local town (Warrington) for example. This is 100% the responsibility of the individual clubs. Of course if there is anything the RFL can support or help, then they should (see the above examples).

Given the poor relatively speaking attendances at many of our clubs I would have thought that either the RFL demand the clubs do more and have people specificaly at clubs doing this job or they do more themselves

: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:45 pm  

bramleyrhino wrote: Other clubs have done similar things for the same fixture, it really isn't that hard and if any club feels the need to blame away fans for their pitiful crowds, then their Super League status should really be reconsidered. Bringing up an article from 2006 on a thread about 2009 crowd figures is rather sad.

bramleyrhino wrote: Other clubs have done similar things for the same fixture, it really isn't that hard and if any club feels the need to blame away fans for their pitiful crowds, then their Super League status should really be reconsidered. Bringing up an article from 2006 on a thread about 2009 crowd figures is rather sad.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:37 pm  

Rd 21 July 17th-19th
Hull FC v Celtic 10,397
Leeds v HKR 16,192
Salford v Cas 3,487
St's V Wakey 8,651
Bradford v Wigan TBC
Cats v Quins TBC
Hudds v Wolves TBC

-------------------------------------
Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608

Rd 20Rd Total = 53,471
Rd Avg = 7,6,38

Rd 21 Total= TBC
Rd Avg = TBC

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:44 pm  

Karlos13 wrote:

Bringing up an article from 2006 on a thread about 2009 crowd figures is rather sad.

If it's indicative of a viewpoint or attitude held at a club, I think it's still perfectly relevant.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:07 pm  

bramleyrhino wrote:

If it's indicative of a viewpoint or attitude held at a club, I think it's still perfectly relevant.

If you actually read the article properly, nowhere does it say that Salford were blaming the French for poor crowds. Merely stating that it's a shame Catalans weren't/won't have many 'away' supporters there to support them. Not blaming them for low attendances.

I think the marketing push from the club, the free tickets in an attempt to get people through the doors and the push for the new stadium knowing that will help us greatly in attracting new supporters and persuading casual supporters to come more often shows that Salford have taken responsibility for crowds at the Willows. And they are growing, albeit slowly.

: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:40 pm  

I think personally salford ahve to go back to sunday afternoon kickoffs

: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:26 am  

Dico wrote:

I think personally salford ahve to go back to sunday afternoon kickoffs

I think they need to go back to the Championship!