Re: 2016 Kits : Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:02 pm  

I can understand the occasional 'risky' design, but with regards to that away kit, what were they thinking!?

Re: 2016 Kits : Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:12 pm  

To be fair, we haven't had a properly awful kit for a while so its was due!!

I actually like the away kit. The home kit is a very bad homage to the 1985 'Meninga' kit.

Re: 2016 Kits : Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:27 pm  

Tigerade wrote:

Poor effort by Saints which makes a change. I'm sure my club Tigers will top it though for awfulness.

Sworn enemies as we are you really have had to suffer some real abominations - our last two kits have been poor but overall since SL began we have whooped you as regards kits. Don't even seem to get the difference between Amberish and dayglow Orange - best of luck on that one.

Re: 2016 Kits : Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:31 pm  

I'll take a "can of whoop" from Wakey - as long as it's only over kit design and colour - no problem there Vasty.

Re: 2016 Kits : Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:02 am  

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:

Yeh, those corporate powerhouses like St Helens College, Totally Wicked & A-Star Recruitment with their huge marketing budgets, throwing silly money at Saints they can't afford to turn down.

Of course, the clubs could always offer exclusive kit sponsorship as we see in football, our national team, RU etc, using that exclusivity to drive for a higher main sponsorship price, and more than cover the paltry amounts they receive to sponsor the collar, shorts and what not.

I don't know what it's like at other clubs but at Leeds the additional sponsors (ie not Leeds Building Society) on the shirt/shorts etc bring in very useful extra revenue or services to the club. Global and Berry's both regularly take hospitality on matchdays (not just freebies associated with their sponsorship) and the club have a very strong relationship with Leeds Beckett Uni with both senior and academy players taking courses there and the Uni using the Carnegie Stand classrooms, and quite a few of the players and staff have cars provided by Global.
It's not just the pure cash from the sponsorship. It's a way of tying, often smaller, organisations to the club and hopefully developing long-lasting partnerships which will bear fruit in the future.

Re: 2016 Kits : Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:27 am  

Him wrote:

I don't know what it's like at other clubs but at Leeds the additional sponsors (ie not Leeds Building Society) on the shirt/shorts etc bring in very useful extra revenue or services to the club. Global and Berry's both regularly take hospitality on matchdays (not just freebies associated with their sponsorship) and the club have a very strong relationship with Leeds Beckett Uni with both senior and academy players taking courses there and the Uni using the Carnegie Stand classrooms, and quite a few of the players and staff have cars provided by Global.
It's not just the pure cash from the sponsorship. It's a way of tying, often smaller, organisations to the club and hopefully developing long-lasting partnerships which will bear fruit in the future.

Quite right regarding partnerships with other businesses, and I imagine this is how most clubs do it (or try to do it). But, every professional sports club have these partners, some who've shown support through sponsorship for years, and others where there are mutual agreements. Yet, it's only really the SL who have their playing kits plastered with so many sponsors.

There are plenty of other ways these partners can sponsor the club, without it detracting from the playing kit, and like I said, the small sums involved could more than be made up by an exclusive main sponsor.

It's just a pet hate. I get why they do it, the RFL/SL set the rules on shirt sponsorship, I just think it looks naff and a bit small time.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: 2016 Kits : Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:15 pm  

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:

Quite right regarding partnerships with other businesses, and I imagine this is how most clubs do it (or try to do it). But, every professional sports club have these partners, some who've shown support through sponsorship for years, and others where there are mutual agreements. Yet, it's only really the SL who have their playing kits plastered with so many sponsors.

There are plenty of other ways these partners can sponsor the club, without it detracting from the playing kit, and like I said, the small sums involved could more than be made up by an exclusive main sponsor.

It's just a pet hate. I get why they do it, the RFL/SL set the rules on shirt sponsorship, I just think it looks naff and a bit small time.

Was at a members meeting for warrington on wednesday, the new shirts appear to only have main sponsor, sleeve sponse and two on the back, which are both local and longstanding company associations. Both shirts look very clean and uncluttered, but our Rog the CEO says he's after looking at the advertising around the stadium, he's not a big fan of various brands and signs, he'd prefer to have less adverts but all looking very uniform and clean.

Re: 2016 Kits : Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:16 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

Was at a members meeting for warrington on wednesday, the new shirts appear to only have main sponsor, sleeve sponse and two on the back, which are both local and longstanding company associations. Both shirts look very clean and uncluttered, but our Rog the CEO says he's after looking at the advertising around the stadium, he's not a big fan of various brands and signs, he'd prefer to have less adverts but all looking very uniform and clean.

He's speaking my language that guy. To be fair, the recent Warrington shirts tend to look pretty good and uncluttered. Less going on gives a higher sense of quality and brings to the fore the club's brand IMO.

It's a good point too regarding stadium advertising. At Hull we have the South Stand where I sit decked out in signage too. Looks cheap and tacky.

This is the shop equivalent. "Looking good lads, well worth the extra pocket change"

Re: 2016 Kits : Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:20 pm  

The problem is the RFL and their silly guidelines. They insist on taking up many of the prime locations with 'Try Assist' and the league logos so clubs end up with loads of little logos everywhere.

It does not excuse that rubbish St Helens and Hull FC have churned out though!!

Re: 2016 Kits : Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:24 pm  

This:



Or this:



And that's not even a really bad one, no collar or extra chest sponsor