Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:59 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Doesnt address the failings at youth level though does it. HKR have had 5 years of no relegation to get their youth development in order, yet they are still 'weak' in this respect, when P+R comes back in we arent going to see them sacrificing the 1st team to get the infrastructure in place, and the investment in youth development in order. Its a pretty disappointing outcome from them.

Where also the only club to address issues with our current ground but hey ho

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:59 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Doesnt address the failings at youth level though does it. HKR have had 5 years of no relegation to get their youth development in order, yet they are still 'weak' in this respect, when P+R comes back in we arent going to see them sacrificing the 1st team to get the infrastructure in place, and the investment in youth development in order. Its a pretty disappointing outcome from them.

Was that the point I was making..............No.
Are you therefore talking to yourself............Yes.

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:09 am  

moxi1 wrote:

Where also the only club to address issues with our current ground but hey ho

So stadiums at Barton and Langtree Park are imaginary? The £7m Carnegie stand at Headingley is made of marshmallows and candy floss?

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:39 am  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Was that the point I was making..............No.
Are you therefore talking to yourself............Yes.

The post you were responding to criticised your academy, you then listed numbers of overseas players. Im just pointing out to you that you can list all the numbers of overseas players you want, Hull KR still have among the 2 worst academies in SL, they are still ‘weak’ in this area, after 5 years in a franchised SL where they are given every opportunity possible Hull KR still chose to spend money on Willie Mason instead of their ‘urgent need to address their staffing structure’ and ‘provide better access to facilities for all players’ when ‘both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players’ Hull KR could have 0 overseas players, their youth development is still poop and the lack of investment in to it should embarrass them.

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:47 am  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

*huge list of aussie players at Hull KR*
Fancy shutting it now?

SmokeyTA wrote:

The post you were responding to criticised your academy, you then listed numbers of overseas players. Im just pointing out to you that you can list all the numbers of overseas players you want, Hull KR still have among the 2 worst academies in SL, they are still ‘weak’ in this area, after 5 years in a franchised SL where they are given every opportunity possible Hull KR still chose to spend money on Willie Mason instead of their ‘urgent need to address their staffing structure’ and ‘provide better access to facilities for all players’ when ‘both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players’ Hull KR could have 0 overseas players, their youth development is still poop and the lack of investment in to it should embarrass them.

What he said ^

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:04 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

Doesnt address the failings at youth level though does it. HKR have had 5 years of no relegation to get their youth development in order, yet they are still 'weak' in this respect, when P+R comes back in we arent going to see them sacrificing the 1st team to get the infrastructure in place, and the investment in youth development in order. Its a pretty disappointing outcome from them.

Not as bad as London, Bradford, cas, widnes, salford or wakey at u19's
P&R won't be decided on how good your under 16's academy is, you want relegation then so be it, I have no problems with my club stopping funding to Jnr's to ensure we put out a team every year that will not be relegated.

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:17 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

The post you were responding to criticised your academy, you then listed numbers of overseas players. Im just pointing out to you that you can list all the numbers of overseas players you want, Hull KR still have among the 2 worst academies in SL, they are still ‘weak’ in this area, after 5 years in a franchised SL where they are given every opportunity possible Hull KR still chose to spend money on Willie Mason instead of their ‘urgent need to address their staffing structure’ and ‘provide better access to facilities for all players’ when ‘both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players’ Hull KR could have 0 overseas players, their youth development is still poop and the lack of investment in to it should embarrass them.

U20's we finished 7th out of 14 in 2011 and 8th in 2010

Whilst not pulling up trees we are hardly have the worse jnr development programmes in SL.

We've gone from having 12 overseas players to next year prob 5. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see that things have changed for the better since we joined SL.

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:23 am  

JB Down Under wrote:

Not as bad as London, Bradford, cas, widnes, salford or wakey at u19's
P&R won't be decided on how good your under 16's academy is, you want relegation then so be it, I have no problems with my club stopping funding to Jnr's to ensure we put out a team every year that will not be relegated.

I don’t want P+R, because it will lead to this obvious and exact issue, where young kids are failed because of short-term self-interest of clubs. For a system like HKR’s to be so poor after 5 years of franchising is even worse.

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:26 am  

JB Down Under wrote:

U20's we finished 7th out of 14 in 2011 and 8th in 2010

Whilst not pulling up trees we are hardly have the worse jnr development programmes in SL.

We've gone from having 12 overseas players to next year prob 5. You'd have to be pretty dumb to not see that things have changed for the better since we joined SL.

The club urgently needs to address its staffing structure and provide better access to facilities for all players – both of these issues are having an adverse effect on the progress being made by the players. these comments, along with a score of 4, are pretty much, outright telling us HKR are failing their youth players with their development. HKR are one of only 2 SL clubs to score such a low score.

Re: 2013 Player Movements : Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:27 am  

LeedsDave wrote:

What he said ^

Probably best that you don't look to agenda wielding nutcases to back you up.