: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm  

bluesox4evaaa wrote:

IF BEING IN SUPER LEAGUE IS ONLY ABOUT TV DEALS AND SPONSORSHIPS YOU CAN STICK IT UP YOUR A**E

Well. there's an alternative view

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:37 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Are you suggesting foul play by the RFL sir?

Neither of us will get a licence for 2012 unless they promote 2 clubs. I doubt that will happen.

The RFL will come up with a reason if they just don't want a club in. They just make up an ambiguous summary about attendances and youth development or whatever they think they'll get away with and put in who they want regardless. Toulouse will probably see us both off in 2011.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:40 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Well. there's an alternative view

yeah f**k em if all they want is to forge out new teams from nowhere just for commercial reasons. im having enough fun in the championship

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm  

Pepe wrote:

Neither of us will get a licence for 2012 unless they promote 2 clubs. I doubt that will happen.

The RFL will come up with a reason if they just don't want a club in. They just make up an ambiguous summary about attendances and youth development or whatever they think they'll get away with and put in who they want regardless. Toulouse will probably see us both off in 2011.

Maybe, maybe not. I just think (and it may not even happen) that if one team were to win the GF thrice and a couple of cup comps then this will be enough to get a ticket. Toulouse have still got to stand up and be counted in terms of 2012. Everyone seems to think they're a shoe in. They didn't get one in the last round because they weren't deemed to be ready. They still have to make themselves ready during the next two years.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:52 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Maybe, maybe not. I just think (and it may not even happen) that if one team were to win the GF thrice and a couple of cup comps then this will be enough to get a ticket. Toulouse have still got to stand up and be counted in terms of 2012. Everyone seems to think they're a shoe in. They didn't get one in the last round because they weren't deemed to be ready. They still have to make themselves ready during the next two years.

Winning the NFP/NL1 and now the Championship wasn't even a guarantee of promotion before the licence era, no matter how many times you won it.

Halifax have a lot of work to do with their attendances and particularly their youth development. Unless these areas are sorted very soon, that's where they'll get knocked back. Even if Halifax do put these areas right, it may be too late or not enough to satisfy over critical eyes at the RFL.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:55 pm  

If I'm honest I can see Celtic Crusaders leaving next time round.

A poor first season will alienate the Welsh crowds, there will be no real progress in converting grass roots to the game, and their money man will lose interest.

Much the same as happened in various other top-down expansions; Gateshead, Paris, London etc.

I'd like to see Toulouse replace them.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:59 pm  

Pepe wrote:

particularly their youth development.

Piece of piss this one mate. In recent years we had an U21's team which dominated the crap out of the competition. There is a lot of talent locally for us to draw upon when we re-introduce the reserve squad next year.

We have to address the poor attendances but if Huddersfield can do it - so can we

Three years is a long time for a club to pull up it's bootstraps and conversely, to cock it all up big style. We are at least currently making sure we are doing the former. The first hurdle is to win something. This is what we are setting out to do this season.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:01 pm  

declaration wrote:

If I'm honest I can see Celtic Crusaders leaving next time round.

A poor first season will alienate the Welsh crowds, there will be no real progress in converting grass roots to the game, and their money man will lose interest.

Much the same as happened in various other top-down expansions; Gateshead, Paris, London etc.

I'd like to see Toulouse replace them.

sensible point.it amazes me how many people on here seem to assume that inventing a scottish/irish/portugese/etc team will simply turn up and be sustainable

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:08 pm  

bluesox4evaaa wrote:

sensible point.it amazes me how many people on here seem to assume that inventing a scottish/irish/portugese/etc team will simply turn up and be sustainable

No chance, id love to see an Irish side but i know that it will take a lot of amateur work first to get people into the game and a lot of work in the community to get people to watch.

Football might get big attendances in England and be the most popular sport, but our Irish league equivelant has pretty poor attendances and very little money. Rugby league would be a viable summer sport here and after a few years an Irish RL team should be able to draw reasonable crowds and dig into a range of athletes.

: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm  

celtic are the safest team of the lot..up there with wigan,leeds etc...