Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:48 pm  

If we still had P&R clubs would still be throwing money at imports, paying lip servce to youth development and possibly even less time to ground improvements. If it wasn't for the license system would Saints, Salford, Castleford and Wakefield be building or looking to build new stadiums? Would we have extended Craven Park?

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:39 pm  

gateaux wrote:

Exactly, the franchise system is encouraging teams to strengthen across the board which in the long run can only be a good thing.

Too many second rate Antipodeans in the whole of UK rugby-RFL and RFU me thinks.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:18 pm  

If it was up to me I'd have a play off between the Championship winners and the Super League bottom club and judging by Batley, Leigh and Halifax's performances against Super League clubs in the cup, there could be a close game.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:24 pm  

crumble90 wrote:

If it was up to me I'd have a play off between the Championship winners and the Super League bottom club and judging by Batley, Leigh and Halifax's performances against Super League clubs in the cup, there could be a close game.

In a game for Super League survival? A fully pro team versus a semi-pro team? £1.6m versus £300,000?

The Championship club would be mullered. Every time.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:36 pm  

Him wrote:

In a game for Super League survival? A fully pro team versus a semi-pro team? £1.6m versus £300,000?

The Championship club would be mullered. Every time.

There might be a 1.6 million salary cap but how many teams in super league are actually fulfilling it?

I reckon that if you were to put Leigh/Featherstone v Wakefield/Crusaders, there wouldn't be much more than 2 tries either way.

[Wanderer]

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:11 pm  

Peckerwood wrote:

Basically you'll still have the P&R mentality pre-2008 which worked wonders, didn't it?

Franchising hasn't stopped Clubs overspending either has it?

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:54 pm  

I voted for P&R though I wanted to say 'other'. And it would be the best middle ground compromise there is. It occurs every second season...

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:27 pm  

Promotion and relegation...there is no arguement or debate in my eyes

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:02 pm  

Red Red Robin wrote:

If we still had P&R clubs would still be throwing money at imports, paying lip servce to youth development and possibly even less time to ground improvements. If it wasn't for the license system would Saints, Salford, Castleford and Wakefield be building or looking to build new stadiums? Would we have extended Craven Park?

Spot on. I've already made those points, which are always ignored by the pro-P&R brigade.

Re: POLL Promotion and Relegation v Franchises. : Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:07 pm  

I think I favour the franchise system at the moment as it does seem to allow spending on youth, stadia etc. An earlier poster mentioned keeping the above until there were several teams/clubs at the bottom of SL/top of Championship who may be interchangable. This would be a good thing. Only way of telling tho', would be the Challenge Cup and that depends on the draw and is subject to freak results etc. Bit of a bummer, really...