Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:45 pm  

Sorry, goat. The plastic w***er

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:47 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Deserves to be on the short list, for me its a 2 horse race between Mo Farah and Andy Murray.

Tyson Fury will be up there now as well. Mind you the British sportsman / woman most written / spoken about this year has been Sam Burgess! Can't understand that he's not been nominated!

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:03 pm  

It's symptomatic of the media bias against rugby league that it takes him to have to move to union to be nominated.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:18 pm  

Fury should win it really imo. Going into the backyard of the champ who was undefeated for a decade is some achievement and lets be honest, who really gave him a chance?

Murray winning would be fair enough too for me, but i suspect the Davis cup team already have the team award sown up.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:25 pm  

Him wrote:

I'm not sure that homophobia is really the personality trait that SPOTY is after.

He'd surely be up there with the greatest wouldn't he?

Not denying he was a great captain (for Leeds anyway), but wouldn't call him the best ever captain.

Andrew Johns, Darren Lockyer and Neil Fox I'd consider to be a few of those higher up on the "best captains" list.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:26 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

Course not he plays for Leeds, it's that type of negative club only biase that holds the game back. Seriously can any one name a greater more successful captain.

There are many things holding the game back, that isn't one of them. Jesus wept

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:33 pm  

garyhulsefan wrote:

It's symptomatic of the media bias against rugby league that it takes him to have to move to union to be nominated.

There it is! I was waiting for this!

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:04 pm  

I'm not sure what Sinfield has done individually this year to get nominated but I'll still vote for him purely because of my RL bias. There is no doubt how good he has been for Leeds but I feel the nomination is possibly recognition for his career rather than this year.

If Leeds don't get team of the year someone wants shooting (though they'll probably give it to Andy Mur..... Sorry team GB.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:16 pm  

South Coast RL wrote:

I'm not sure what Sinfield has done individually this year to get nominated but I'll still vote for him purely because of my RL bias. There is no doubt how good he has been for Leeds but I feel the nomination is possibly recognition for his career rather than this year.

If Leeds don't get team of the year someone wants shooting (though they'll probably give it to Andy Mur..... Sorry team GB.

True it's definatley a career nomination but it's not the first time they've done it. In 2009 Ryan Giggs won the award and that was swayed by his long career in the game, Phil Taylor in darts came second one year and hasn't been nominated any other year even though he won loads year upon year. AP McCoy won, he obviously won the Grand National that year but can't recal other Grand National winning jockeys ever being nominated before so obviously his career was taken into account.

And even though it's an "of the Year" award, quite frankly I don't think their's anything wrong with putting someone in based on their career in the right circumstances and I think this warrants it. Had his final season ended trophyless or with just one trophy then hard to put him in, but he captained his side to all three prizes.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:14 am  

Willzay - why would you say Johns or Lockyer were better captains than Sinfield? Just interested. Better players, sure. But Captains? I can't think of anyone who comes close for longevity and success combined.