Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 1:54 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

Why not?

Definitely not Fax. The club hasn't got the finances or strength behind the scenes for SL.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:12 pm  

Leon Ashton wrote:

Definitely not Fax. The club hasn't got the finances or strength behind the scenes for SL.

TWP aren't gone yet, and one thing Fax do have is some good players...Here is Argyle:-

“It’s been suggested to us that we could loan young players from other clubs, but we’re not here to make up the numbers and we never have been. We didn’t hire Brian McDermott as coach to do that. We also feel that it would be dangerous for us to fill our squad with other clubs' juniors, especially at a time when players might only have four days’ rest between matches.”

So as it appears that the Championship isn't going to return, there could well be some very good senior lads in the Championship who could be loaned out to TWP to join the 17 TWP players not affected by the Visa issues. Fax have half a dozen don't they and they only have to play here if they have jobs. Fairbank. Tyrer, Murrell, Sharpe????

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:41 pm  

When there is no relegation why is Argyle concerned about the quality of their squad if the visas are not extended for their non based UK players ? It would only affect their chances of maybe a challenge cup run, doubt they would have finished near the top of SL anyway.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 2:50 pm  

snowie wrote:

https://cfjctoday.com/2020/04/17/wolfpack-get-notice-of-pay-cuts-as-rugby-league-tightens-belt-during-pandemic/

There you go sweetheart no mention of late payments but some players and staff taking up to 60-70% pay cuts nice eh

So no different to every other super league team then.

Still awaiting evidence of the late payments

TIA

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:51 pm  

Bulls4 wrote:

Or Bradford? (Ducks for cover)

Far preferable imo

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:53 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

TWP aren't gone yet, and one thing Fax do have is some good players...Here is Argyle:-

“It’s been suggested to us that we could loan young players from other clubs, but we’re not here to make up the numbers and we never have been. We didn’t hire Brian McDermott as coach to do that. We also feel that it would be dangerous for us to fill our squad with other clubs' juniors, especially at a time when players might only have four days’ rest between matches.”

So as it appears that the Championship isn't going to return, there could well be some very good senior lads in the Championship who could be loaned out to TWP to join the 17 TWP players not affected by the Visa issues. Fax have half a dozen don't they and they only have to play here if they have jobs. Fairbank. Tyrer, Murrell, Sharpe????

None of them are near SL standard and Sharp is at York now.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:55 pm  

Leon Ashton wrote:

Definitely not Fax. The club hasn't got the finances or strength behind the scenes for SL.

Has it not? Thought they had SL ambitions last set of qualifiers they contested?
You may be right in your statement but reading about Toronto's business model I think Fax or Bulls offer more right now

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:08 pm  

This just shows how much little clout rugby league has. Remember the issues Matt Cecchin had in getting a visa. They even had to make a new job title for him to try and get one.

Other sports wouldn't have this issue.

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:17 pm  

It’s about time both the Super league and RFL got their act together and sorted this out once and for all.

Whilst I am what most people would call a ‘flat capper’ I didn’t want foreign teams in the RFL, the league has two major problems with TWP and Catalans Dragons.

My take is as the RFL/SL accepted them happily in the good times, there should be no talk of either not been supported, the Cats should be able to play in France in front of 5,000 supporters as is their right and any team refusing to travel to play them should be expelled from the league, as the other 11 teams have a duty to travel to France the Cats home ground, to fulfil their fixture and there is no possible excuse not to do so. Whilst I don’t particularly like Bernard Guasch his comments on this are correct.

If the RFL has done it’s homework they will have known about the UK visa issue with Torontos Australasian overseas players and possible Canadian Visa issues with UK players in a state of emergency.

As again they accepted TWP into the league so it is up to the RFL and SL to come up with a solution satisfactory to the TWP.

Even if that means suspending relegation for 2020 for a TWP and allowing them to opt out of the rest of 2020. They should also supply the money to offset the TWP losses due to no RL in Canada 2020.

If they want to be ‘left field’ they could exempt TWP, re-set the points to zero and play a season with 11 teams with a top four play off and the bottom two teams relegated to allow the fast tracking of Toulouse and Ottawa to create two ‘offshore’ derbies in countries ear marked for expansion and continue the RFL’s expansion into overseas markets to stop the decline the game has seen in the last 10/15 years.

This would make for compulsive TV watching for the fans and SKY.

Whilst I would still prefer to watch the RL with UK teams I believe that we must ‘grasp’ the future the game has chosen and support the TWP in any way we can.

The RFL have ‘made our bed‘ now is the time to ‘lie in it’ for what they are convinced is for the good of the game.’

Re: Toronto Wolfpack may pull out of Superleague : Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:21 pm  

craig hkr wrote:

Has it not? Thought they had SL ambitions last set of qualifiers they contested?
You may be right in your statement but reading about Toronto's business model I think Fax or Bulls offer more right now

Nope the club is skint. They did have ambitions but it was more dreams than reality. Not sure what you see in Bulls to suggest they offer more than TW, they are a complete basket case. If you want a properly run club look at Fev.