: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:21 pm  

dally messenger wrote:

a few stuck up kids playing some union hardly comprises much of a sport

funnily enough union have managed to trick the world into believing that places like australia even care about the sport.

FFS. Yes, hardly anyone plays Union compared to other sports in the US, and I doubt the US will ever be anthing other than a minor irritant in their international game. But there are hundreds of clubs there, you cannot deny that surely? We would kill to have that sort of infrastructure and player base, and it forms a much better starting point to grow the game than our pipe dreams.

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:27 pm  

mav wrote:

Wow, they have more clubs beginning with 'B' than there are in MLB and the NFL combined. Rugby union must be the powerful sport in the US.

Meanwhile, rational earthlings do not compare the number of clubs in a single league with every single club that play a sport no matter how small or at what level thinking it proves anything.

That is simply a bad copy and paste effort. Amateurish, for sure, but having seen the earlier version of the page when it was first linked on this thread they had those same paragraphs but in the correct order. That is the problem with making a site public before it has been developed, which is clearly the case as it seems to change every time someone mentions it.

So the only real world approach is to totally ignore different cultures and just do things they way the British way irrespective of how people relate differently to sports in other countries.

While American football is played at high school and college it is not a club sport, it does not have hundreds of amateur clubs playing for fun. It was around for decades before television brought it to the masses, from where it has grown to be the biggest sport. Maybe you should tell the NFL how stupid their approach is.

I also never knew that people who enjoy watching sport only do so through participation.

Michael.

Right, so the experience of a sport that was already played at thousands of schools and colleges across the counry professionalising itself as a TV product in the 20th century is directly comparable to setting up a RL competition now on top of no player base is it? FFS, I bet you don't even believe your own argument.

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:34 pm  

HKR, im all for keeping things in check, but you're starting to depress even me

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:36 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

HKR, im all for keeping things in check, but you're starting to depress even me

sorry mate

just reckon better to deflate the bubble now, than have it explode in our faces in 2010 when absolutely nothing happens and then all the optimists in this thread go back to the default manic depressive self-harm mode

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:38 pm  

Hull Kingston Bronco wrote:

sorry mate

just reckon better to deflate the bubble now, than have it explode in our faces in 2010 when absolutely nothing happens and then all the optimists in this thread go back to the default manic depressive self-harm mode

leave dally to it. the guys a crank (allegedly)

: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:40 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

Are them goals being held up with another post across the floor?! That looks very dangerous!!!

They are parallel to touch lines it would seem yes.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:58 am  

Yeah right

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:54 am  

Hull Kingston Bronco wrote:

Right, so the experience of a sport that was already played at thousands of schools and colleges across the counry professionalising itself as a TV product in the 20th century is directly comparable to setting up a RL competition now on top of no player base is it? FFS, I bet you don't even believe your own argument.

If by my own argument you mean what you just wrote then no, but then that was not my argument but your straw man.

Michael.

: Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:35 pm  

mav wrote:

If by my own argument you mean what you just wrote then no, but then that was not my argument but your straw man.

Michael.

Yeah right. Strawman, know thyself

My position was that our game would be better served by focusing on building a network of people playing the game, creating a community of interest, and not trying to develop a professional league too soon (and especially not get sucked in my the hyperbole of certain people in the US RL sphere, who have previous on this). Also, that this was what the IRB were doing.

You asked me to challenge the NFL on their strategy, if this was what I thought, as (I assume) it somehow contradicted my position - ergo, that some sort of short-circuit was an option.

I've now pointed out that the NFL's strategy since the TV-driven growth was based on the sort of solid foundation I suggest we need to build.

Your post is there to read mate, no strawman required

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:47 am  

Hull Kingston Bronco wrote:

FFS. Yes, hardly anyone plays Union compared to other sports in the US, and I doubt the US will ever be anthing other than a minor irritant in their international game. But there are hundreds of clubs there, you cannot deny that surely? We would kill to have that sort of infrastructure and player base, and it forms a much better starting point to grow the game than our pipe dreams.

like i said before a few stuck up kids throwing a ball around doesnt make a sport.