Re: Leigh : Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:48 pm  

jesus-is-coming wrote: cap what cap love to see the rfl challenge the right for a worker earn money in the united kingdom you'll thank Derek next year I'm thanking Derek now,hugely amusing,but Barrow followers don't thank Des,and they actually won something,and over in Australia they sure ain't thanking the individuals who ran the Storm

jesus-is-coming wrote: cap what cap love to see the rfl challenge the right for a worker earn money in the united kingdom you'll thank Derek next year I'm thanking Derek now,hugely amusing,but Barrow followers don't thank Des,and they actually won something,and over in Australia they sure ain't thanking the individuals who ran the Storm

Re: Leigh : Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:13 pm  

Nozzy wrote:

Not sure but this season we only used 1 (Moimoi) so we have plenty room on that front. Also Mathias Pala but he's French so not sure that he counts towards the quota?

It gets a bit tricky for Championship clubs.

SL clubs are allowed 7 Non-Federation Trained players and 5 Overseas Quota players (these run side by side, not an addition to each other).

The Championship clubs are also allowed 7 NFT players but, according to the operational rules, only 1 Overseas Quota player.

For those who don't know, the Overseas Quota is (basically) anyone who isn't an EU national. So, for instance, Roy Asotasi would count on Warrington's Overseas Quota as he (AFAIK) doesn't have an EU passport.
However Pat Richards didn't count on Wigan's Overseas Quota because he had an Irish passport.
It's obviously quite easy to get around for a lot of Aussies who have European heritage. But the Quota is still active.

The Non-Federation Trained quota is anyone who wasn't trained in the RLEF (European Federation) area. So both Roy Asotasi and Pat Richards did count on this list because they were both trained down under and not in Europe. But French players wouldn't count on anyone's quota because they were obviously trained in Europe. The players who were in SL when the rules came in (2008) were exempted from it, but they're few and far between now.

These 2 rules run side by side, so some players could be 1 or both quotas.
For instance at Leeds it would be:
Overseas Quota (5 of max 5) -
Joel Moon
Kylie Leuluai
Paul Aiton
Brett Delaney
Mitch Garbutt

NFT: (6 of max 7)
Joel Moon
Paul Aiton
Brett Delaney
Mitch Achurch
Adam Cuthbertson
Mitch Garbutt

Leuluai isn't on the NFT because he was at Leeds prior to 2008. Cuthbertson and Achurch aren't on the OQ because they have British passports.


So Leigh's worries aren't about the 7 Non-Federation Trained players they can have, it's the 1 Overseas Quota player they're allowed that'll be the problem.

Re: Leigh : Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:14 pm  

Hansen and fui are not on the quota as they are tongan. Weston and Paterson will be.

Re: Leigh : Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:29 pm  

has the quota ever been enforced?

Re: Leigh : Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:33 pm  

Which bit of rules changed last season do you not grasp as Bradford and London had more overseas players on quota than the current national leagues allowed at the time so the championship teams were brought inline with it as will the salary cap soon

Re: Leigh : Mon Sep 28, 2015 7:45 pm  

Hindsfordleyther79 wrote:

Hansen and fui are not on the quota as they are tongan. Weston and Paterson will be.

Harrison's not Tongan. He did spend most of his youth locally though, attending Moorside school in Swinton and coming up through Folly Lane and Wigan academy, so shouldn't count on any quota.

Re: Leigh : Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:18 pm  

The use of overseas "exempt" players at the expense of the hard work of training and developing home grown players is still , IMO, a major reason why sport as a whole is declining in this country.
Soccer is an absolute joke, RU is, as is cricket etc etc.
Then people wonder why the country cannot produce international teams that are competitive.

Re: Leigh : Tue Sep 29, 2015 12:28 pm  

has the quota ever been enforced?

London brought on a prop from Wakey when in SL who was one overseas player too many on the quota and he wasn't allowed to be registered and was released.

Re: Leigh : Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:35 pm  

Leigh haven't had to show any discipline in the Championship, they can chuck the ball around & outscore the part timers too easily... but step up a level & their inability to sustain or handle pressure is exposed. All these signings will do is enable them to run up bigger scores with less effort. Still won't help against stronger opposition.

Re: Leigh : Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:05 pm  

Leaguefan wrote:

The use of overseas "exempt" players at the expense of the hard work of training and developing home grown players is still , IMO, a major reason why sport as a whole is declining in this country.
Soccer is an absolute joke, RU is, as is cricket etc etc.
Then people wonder why the country cannot produce international teams that are competitive.

All our international teams are competitve. Winning things? Not all of them do. Rugby union and cricket have, football and rl not in generations. But they are competitive.