Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 10:56 am  

What people are forgetting is that RL is a very physical game and in the big games especially players are very pumped up and on the edge already. Handbag incidents then occur. Its not bloody football, if you dont want physical confrontations go and watch that crap.

The witch hunt against Leigh is, in my opinion, based on super league fans and clubs not liking a small town team threatening their once safe haven of a super league place. People are never going to like Leigh and if it wasnt this reason it'd be another.

Maurice is right, unless you have seen a few Leigh games and not a couple on telly then dont try and pass judgment and follow Clarke and Hemmings unfounded comments, you just make yourself look stupid.

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 11:04 am  

dick scratcher wrote:

What people are forgetting is that RL is a very physical game and in the big games especially players are very pumped up and on the edge already. Handbag incidents then occur. Its not bloody football, if you dont want physical confrontations go and watch that crap.

The witch hunt against Leigh is, in my opinion, based on super league fans and clubs not liking a small town team threatening their once safe haven of a super league place. People are never going to like Leigh and if it wasnt this reason it'd be another.

Maurice is right, unless you have seen a few Leigh games and not a couple on telly then dont try and pass judgment and follow Clarke and Hemmings unfounded comments, you just make yourself look stupid.

I would agree with you if it wasn't for the amount of fans of championship clubs who have also said the same thing. There has to be some truth in what people are alleging even if some of it is embellished a little. FWIW I'm glad in a way that there is a club on the up, as this proves that there is a place for P&R of some sort. What I personally don't like is the arrogance of a lot of Leigh fans who think their club is squeaky clean.

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 11:09 am  

Believe me, the majority of Leigh fans dont think we are squeaky clean, they know we have a problem but it is being blown way out of proportion by people who havent seen enough of us to know the facts. Nor do the majority of Leigh fans think we are unbeatable as some have said. I think these Leigh fans who are getting it wrong are new fans who havent seen both sides of the game to know it properly. Our crowds have more than doubled in the last couple of seasons so this is bound to happen. Maybe we need to lose a couple of games so they get perspective. We'll see how much they are boastng after the Warrington game!

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 11:14 am  

LifeLongHKRFan wrote:

I would agree with you if it wasn't for the amount of fans of championship clubs who have also said the same thing. There has to be some truth in what people are alleging even if some of it is embellished a little. FWIW I'm glad in a way that there is a club on the up, as this proves that there is a place for P&R of some sort. What I personally don't like is the arrogance of a lot of Leigh fans who think their club is squeaky clean.

I can see there might be a bit of history between clubs in the Championship but the Bulls don't have any history with Leigh in recent years. I am firmly of the opinion that their approach in that first match was almost choreographed with certain players targeted. I would admit to it being a major culture shock after Super League. I still can't believe that Karl Harrison didn't adequately prepare the players as to what to expect.

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 11:16 am  

8ULL5HITT4 wrote:

I still can't believe that Karl Harrison didn't adequately prepare the players as to what to expect.

Ask Halifax fans if they're suprised!

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 11:32 am  

I know several Fax fans and they described what would happen almost perfectly ......They also have a low opinion of Karls ability.

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 11:35 am  

maurice wrote:

How many times have you watched us? I would hazard a guess when on TV, which means v two SL teams and Fev. We had 2 SL refs and one championship - which game deteriorated into a farce? What calibre of ref do we normally get?

Champ teams gameplan is slow it down at all costs and niggle - ref controls it and no problem, they just dont control it. Fev had a bit more to it after the rumours spread from that area and the fact that we had done them 5 times on the bounce after they had been top dogs in the division for years

The trend of bad mouthing to the media started when Bradford lost, and some folk believed the sheeite that Lowes/Bulls spouted as to why they lost. Both sides gave some cheap shots early on in a game that was hyped up, but Bradford kicked it off with an assault on McNally that led to the brawl.

We have b'ends who believe what the media put as fact and wear glasses to suit

I've watched Leigh 9 times this season. 6 live and 3 on TV.

Each time I've watched them it has appeared that Leigh's tactics have been the cause of flare-ups. That view has been backed up by an awful lot of people.

Now this is the key point that some Leigh fans on here are missing. Criticising a team or club does not equate to "hate" (©Salford fans 2014). And pretending that it's somehow everyone else's fault just smacks of delusion or naivety. The same as somehow thinking SL clubs fans think Leigh are somehow threatening their "safe haven" or that they hate small town clubs. That's just deluded rubbish.
I also don't see a witch hunt. I see a continuing issue that isn't being dealt with. This leads to continual comments and so continual denials by those Leigh fans determined to turn their club into some kind of martyr. It is very, very similar to Salford. We've had similar accusations from their fans of "hatred" or "witch hunts" when people pointed out the players they were buying weren't actually that fantastically amazing or that Koukash might not be the RL genius that he was being portrayed as.

I like Leigh when they stop the niggle and play rugby. That's why I went to their games when I could. They're good at it and wouldn't look out of place in SL. They have some cracking players in Brierley etc who are SL standard. I just wish they would tone down the niggle and play rugby more often.

I also wish that Rowley, Beaumont etc would act more professionally and with a bit more humility.

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 11:37 am  

8ULL5HITT4 wrote:

I know several Fax fans and they described what would happen almost perfectly ......They also have a low opinion of Karls ability.

...and that knowledge comes from bitter experience in both respects!

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 12:24 pm  

All I can say is the RFL disciplinary must be biased :)

Re: Discipline at Leigh : Thu May 28, 2015 12:45 pm  

Him wrote:

I've watched Leigh 9 times this season. 6 live and 3 on TV.

Each time I've watched them it has appeared that Leigh's tactics have been the cause of flare-ups. That view has been backed up by an awful lot of people.

Now this is the key point that some Leigh fans on here are missing. Criticising a team or club does not equate to "hate" (©Salford fans 2014). And pretending that it's somehow everyone else's fault just smacks of delusion or naivety. The same as somehow thinking SL clubs fans think Leigh are somehow threatening their "safe haven" or that they hate small town clubs. That's just deluded rubbish.
I also don't see a witch hunt. I see a continuing issue that isn't being dealt with. This leads to continual comments and so continual denials by those Leigh fans determined to turn their club into some kind of martyr. It is very, very similar to Salford. We've had similar accusations from their fans of "hatred" or "witch hunts" when people pointed out the players they were buying weren't actually that fantastically amazing or that Koukash might not be the RL genius that he was being portrayed as.

I like Leigh when they stop the niggle and play rugby. That's why I went to their games when I could. They're good at it and wouldn't look out of place in SL. They have some cracking players in Brierley etc who are SL standard. I just wish they would tone down the niggle and play rugby more often.

I also wish that Rowley, Beaumont etc would act more professionally and with a bit more humility.

Most Leigh fans will acknowledge that we have one or two wind up merchants (and i very much doubt this is exclusive to Leigh), and play a very physical game and sometimes cross the line (I know this isn't exclusive to Leigh). However, some of the reactions to Sunday's game as been OTT. Suggestions that Hock not being sin binned in first half (No further action from RFL disciplinary) is a justification for Wood's attack on Beswick while he was on the floor is preposterous.

Leigh players were guilty of getting the handbags out too easily on Sunday. 2 Featherstone players have been pulled up for far worse.