Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:56 pm  

Exiled down south wrote:

I didn't realise Nigel F was a Homophobe. Are all euro Sceptics Homophobes?

Eh?

Exiled down south wrote:

I suppose if you throw in a couple of polorising characters its adds to your argument. You've won me over.

I don't expect to "win" anybody over who supports any of the 3 people I mentioned.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:04 pm  

DISCRIMINATION... DISCRIMINATION... DISCRIMINATION... Keep shouting it if it makes you feel empowered....

But.... What exactly is homophobic about what Fury said? Yes it's ridiculous, yes it's religious garbage, yes he deserves to be called out as an absolute cretin and an imbecile (though as someone alluded to, he's getting plenty of PR right now, which is fantastic for PPV sales for his next fight), yes he should be challenged on his views...: but what he said isn't homophobic.... And 50 years ago, most people wouldn't have believed abortion and gay marriage would be made legal (though again most sensible folk nowadays see that it is only right).... Nowhere has he compared gay people to paedophiles... What he said is simply his religious belief (Which is one that is supported by most traveller folk) - we get into really tricky grounds if we ban people from being able to share their religious beliefs - hell, for long enough we've allowed religious hate preachers to get away with much worse:..

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:21 pm  

If the award was sportsperson of the year would Fury as world heavyweight champion be a reasonable candidate for the award Him?

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:04 pm  

meast wrote:

ironic that the 1st and 2nd in the sports "personality" award both have the personality of a pea!

But not a heart like a pea

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:24 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

If the award was sportsperson of the year would Fury as world heavyweight champion be a reasonable candidate for the award Him?

No.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:35 am  

Some don't like fury but that's unfortunate cos he ain't going anywhere . Very underrated! Probably doesn't help himself with comments at time but his boxing ability and intelligence in the ring are a different kettle of fish. Proper grown on me in the last year.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:40 am  

Towns88 wrote:

Some don't like fury but that's unfortunate cos he ain't going anywhere . Very underrated!

Well he really does need to win the rematch. BBC Sport tried rebuilding some of the damage he'd done with his apology on the show instead of buckling to pressure to drop him because from their perspective it wouldn't be great to alienate a heavyweight boxing champion.

Whilst he holds those belts it offers him a slight protection that stops the sports media fully getting the knives out for him.....if he loses them though straight back to Klitschko then the media will fully hang him out to dry.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:46 am  

By his own admission Fury has mental health issues. He talks openly about highs and lows. He mentioned after the fight its likely he will be down for a week.

Maybe he regrets saying a few of his comments. He did make a public apology on SPOTY.

For some of course that wont be good enough.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:53 am  

Those of us who are old farts and remember the 1970's, will giggle at the thought of Mr Fury taking on virtually anyone from the top ten of that time..

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:18 am  

wire-quin wrote:

By his own admission Fury has mental health issues. He talks openly about highs and lows. He mentioned after the fight its likely he will be down for a week.

Maybe he regrets saying a few of his comments. He did make a public apology on SPOTY.

For some of course that wont be good enough.

Well, err, yeah. Tends to work that way if you've been insulted.