: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:35 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

well dont pretend they are a product to compete with SL then, it isnt.

Sainsburies own brand champagne doesnt try and compete with crystal, and casio dont try to compete with rolex,

instead of trying to compete with SL clubs, why not try and offer and alternative, why not look at making your product a different product rather than simply an inferior one?

So what do you suggest, slogans such as

'Too poor for Super League? Come along and watch a lesser quality version for half the price!'

They'll flock in their tens of thousands.

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:42 pm  

Starbug wrote:

So Sainsbury Champers isn't inferior to Crystal or a Casio watch isn't inferior to a Rolex ?

Fizzy wine isn't the same as Fizzy wine, a watch isn't a watch

no sainsbury champers isnt the same, its amuch more inferior product, and it doesnt pretend to compete with crystal, Sainsburys champagne doesnt pretend to offer the same taste, quality or 'experiance' as crystal,

Crystal spend millions of pounds a year differentiating their product from sainsburys own brand, creating an image to persuade people to spend ten twenty maybe a hundred times more on Crystal than sainsburys,

and sainsburys dont pretend that they are the same as Crystal, they dont pretend to be special, nor do they pretend to offer the same as crystal, they are a bargain option and happily market themselves as the bargain option, they have no pretence about being a luxury brand, they dont offer a luxury lifestyle, a luxury image or a premium experiance,

they offer basic value, they over the basic product for a basic price, they are offering a product aimed at different sections of the same market

You're crackers

What do you suggest we do , play Lacrosse ?

maybe dont pretend you are a competitor for SL, your not, its idiotic to pretend you are,

using an obviously inferior product to try and compete with a better one, is commercial suicide, the championship as a rival to SL simply will never happen,

they can however clearly differentiate themselves. How they choose to do that is another question,

they could try to be the sainsburys own brand champagne to SLs crystal, but SL sells itself on being the cheap option to Premier League football, and the price difference between SL and the lower leagues isnt massive, so that isnt really an option

so they have to find another way to differentiate themselves, they need to be clear as to why someone should choose to come see them rather than go a couple miles down the road, see a bigger game, in a bigger league, with better players for a small amount more money, whether that be as the first opportunity to see the next young stars or whatever, they need to be different

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:51 pm  

Maximus Decimus wrote:

So what do you suggest, slogans such as

'Too poor for Super League? Come along and watch a lesser quality version for half the price!'

They'll flock in their tens of thousands.

or maybe, 'come see your local team bring through the stars of the future'

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:44 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

or maybe, 'come see your local team bring through the stars of the future'

To market as a ' feeder ' club or glorified academy would be financial sucide to almost any club

You are crackers

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:22 pm  

Starbug wrote:

To market as a ' feeder ' club or glorified academy would be financial sucide to almost any club

You are crackers

really? its not like we are dealing with huge numbers here is it?

the attendances are fairly small to start with, its not like there are going to be thousands leaving is it,

clubs can market themselves as a local team, with local yong stars, the guys who will be playing for GB in 2 or 3 years time, it would raise the standard of the league, with also the possibility of getting the BIG names in for a week or two,

they would have lower rwage costs, more money coming in from SL clubs, probably a few hundred fans from the SL club coming to watch the youngsters.

It would likely make it more difficult to make the jump from the lower leagues to SL, but thats no bad thing, it should be difficult to get into SL, its only for the best

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:26 pm  

Crackers

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:35 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Crackers

cheese

on a seperate note, how are leigh doing? bringing in LOADS of fans are they? making LOTS of money? have HUGE recognition do they? got some international quality youngsters playing for them at the moment?

if so your probably right, they could lose all those things by becoming a feeder club, if not then they arent really going to lose anything are they?

i mean a club which is so desperate to not be a feeder club and is desperate to compete with SL clubs, wouldnt be struggling along at the bottom and signing a player to old to play at SL level would they? their ticket selling signing wouldnt be a past it half back who can no longer cut it in the 2nd worst side in SL would they?

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:35 pm  

Well done the Wakey marketing team, we've come in for huge criticism this season and rightly so IMO, however they've done a tremendous job for this game and got a great result.

7,893 against Celtic deserves a huge round of applause.

Diversity were top drawer aswell.

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:39 pm  

Rd 25 Aug 14th-16th
Wigan v Wolves 13,452
Leeds v Cas 16,931
Les Cats v Hull 9,800
Quins v Salford 2,612
Hudds v Bulls TBC
HKR v St's 8,975
Wakey v CC 7,893


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Rd 19Rd Total = 60,260
Rd Avg = 8,608

Rd 20Rd Total = 53,471
Rd Avg = 7,6,38

Rd 21 Total= 63,645
Rd Avg = 9,092

Rd22 Total=60,192
Rd Avg = 8,598

Rd 23 Total = 67,053
Rd Avg = 9,579

Rd 24 CC slplit round

Rd 25 Total= TBC
Rd Avg = TBC

Looking like a great round, just Quins as per usual letting the league down.

: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:50 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

cheese

on a seperate note, how are leigh doing? bringing in LOADS of fans are they? making LOTS of money? have HUGE recognition do they? got some international quality youngsters playing for them at the moment?

if so your probably right, they could lose all those things by becoming a feeder club, if not then they arent really going to lose anything are they?

i mean a club which is so desperate to not be a feeder club and is desperate to compete with SL clubs, wouldnt be struggling along at the bottom and signing a player to old to play at SL level would they? their ticket selling signing wouldnt be a past it half back who can no longer cut it in the 2nd worst side in SL would they?

Fine thanks , we actually played reasonably well yesterday and have given ourselves a half decent chance of avoiding relegation

As for the international quality youngsters , no but our reserve team have finished top of their division for the 3 rd successive year

But you're still crackers