Re: The World Cup : Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:09 pm  

Everyone keeps dissing the attendances- but the tournament is still on track to beat the overall attendance of the 2017 World Cup held in the Southern Hemisphere where rugby league is NOT a minority sport!

Re: The World Cup : Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:22 pm  

jools wrote:

Everyone keeps dissing the attendances- but the tournament is still on track to beat the overall attendance of the 2017 World Cup held in the Southern Hemisphere where rugby league is NOT a minority sport!

6000 at Leigh for Lebanon v Ireland is pretty good....more that turned out for NZ last week in Warrington

Re: The World Cup : Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:36 pm  

2013 should be the comparison, international RL isn't the same draw in Australia as it is here, although I think they double counted the semi-final attendance in 2013 as it was a double header.

Re: The World Cup : Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:58 am  

Ireland really poor discipline in that game, so stupid - gave the game away when it could have been a contest.

The ball steal rule is stupid - why do we always let the Aussie impose their rules on International RL. Get 3 in a tackle, One works both hands round the ball, the other s drop off and the odds are in the defenders favour every time. It looked like Ireland had never heard of the rule before that game!

Re Attendences: The Ireland/Wales/Scotland games should have been shown in their respective countries - great opportunity to spread awareness lost.

However, the marker will be when we come out of group stages and into the QF, SF and Final. A good England performance and crowds in these will be where the tournament should be judged. Does anyone even know (or more importantly care about) the attendance of the minnow nations Union WC games in the opening rounds ?

Re: The World Cup : Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:22 am  

Big Steve wrote:

Ireland really poor discipline in that game, so stupid - gave the game away when it could have been a contest.

The ball steal rule is stupid - why do we always let the Aussie impose their rules on International RL. Get 3 in a tackle, One works both hands round the ball, the other s drop off and the odds are in the defenders favour every time. It looked like Ireland had never heard of the rule before that game!

Don't like that different ball steel ruling at all, don't know if the refs are shouting tackle complete but some are border line infringements as though the player relaxes to play the ball and the defender just steals the ball.

Re: The World Cup : Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:04 pm  

Big Steve wrote:

Ireland really poor discipline in that game, so stupid - gave the game away when it could have been a contest.

The ball steal rule is stupid - why do we always let the Aussie impose their rules on International RL. Get 3 in a tackle, One works both hands round the ball, the other s drop off and the odds are in the defenders favour every time. It looked like Ireland had never heard of the rule before that game!

Re Attendences: The Ireland/Wales/Scotland games should have been shown in their respective countries - great opportunity to spread awareness lost.

However, the marker will be when we come out of group stages and into the QF, SF and Final. A good England performance and crowds in these will be where the tournament should be judged. Does anyone even know (or more importantly care about) the attendance of the minnow nations Union WC games in the opening rounds ?

The nrl rules have got ridiculous

If the average RL struggles to keep up with the rules what chance has a newbie got ?

The challenge rule is stupid doesn't belong in rugby

And the 2 point drop goal is just ridiculous

Hate the "try no try" aswell

So many pointless things added to this great game

Re: The World Cup : Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:27 pm  

Hopie wrote:

2013 should be the comparison, international RL isn't the same draw in Australia as it is here, although I think they double counted the semi-final attendance in 2013 as it was a double header.

So far I think all comparible fixtures are down on 2013 and as the 2013 final sold out and the Semi got more than the Emirates capacity, they are now reliant on the Quarters bringing in the crowds to try and beat the previous total. They will no doubt use the Womens and Wheelchair numbers to proclaim 'biggest WC ever' though.

Though to be fair the 2013 format produced some bigger games in the group, for example England playing Australia.

Re: The World Cup : Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:18 pm  

UllFC wrote:

So far I think all comparible fixtures are down on 2013 and as the 2013 final sold out and the Semi got more than the Emirates capacity, they are now reliant on the Quarters bringing in the crowds to try and beat the previous total. They will no doubt use the Womens and Wheelchair numbers to proclaim 'biggest WC ever' though.

Though to be fair the 2013 format produced some bigger games in the group, for example England playing Australia.

The 2013 semi was a double header though, so if they sell more at Emirates and elland road than the 63k? At Wembley in 2013 then that'll help with the attendance figures

Re: The World Cup : Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:00 pm  

I think they already sold more tickets than the 2013 edition, but there are more games to do so, and all men's games are singular events.

The next aim the organisers have is to outsell the Women's Euros, which had 500 odd thousand tickets sold.

Re: The World Cup : Mon Oct 24, 2022 7:29 pm  

Hopie wrote:

I think they already sold more tickets than the 2013 edition,

I'm not sure this is the case. Unfortunately I no longer feel able to rely on anything Jon Dutton says.

I feel sorry for him, this tournament definitely isn't going as he planned. But as a Rugby League man he should have known that the prices for some of the tickets were ridiculous - and whilst they may say that for most games lowest price categories remain unsold those are for poorer parts of grounds which is a detraction in itself.

The narrative that this is an expensive tournament with half empty stadia has been set now. It will definitely come round a bit in the knock out stages but only an England win is likely to make anyone think it has been a huge success.

I will say that the appalling functionality of the ticketing website simply compounds things. This again is something I simply can't understand him and his team allowing to happen. They didn't even need to reinvent the wheel, there must be a load of off the shelf solutions to this.