Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Mon May 03, 2010 10:35 pm  

Scanners wrote:

You've backed nothing up at all and made a fool of yourself by saying no non football events have been held at COM since a couple of months after it opened!!

Nope, read the thread.

By the way did you go to Edinburgh or Cardiff?

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Mon May 03, 2010 11:06 pm  

Big Graeme wrote:

Nope, read the thread.

By the way did you go to Edinburgh or Cardiff?

Back up all you have said with proof or wind yer neck in I'll carry on tying you up in knots any time you like.
So when has MCC been approached and said no. How much did Edinburgh get paid? How much damage does a game of RL do? How many non football events can be held at COM? Howm many have been held since it opened? Is 2m not a big enough target area for development? How many live in Edinburgh??? Why London, as it does not qualify under your criteria?

Come on mouth almighty let's hear it.................................

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Mon May 03, 2010 11:12 pm  

Scanners wrote:

Waffle...

I'll take that as a no then.
Suggest you read the thread and others on this topic, you'll find your answers.

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Mon May 03, 2010 11:40 pm  

Leaving to one side all debate over the stadia within Manchester and whether the resident clubs/ stadium owners would want this event on their pitches.

Manchester for the fans of Wigan, Wire, Saints, Salford, Crusaders, Cas, Wakey, Bradford, Leeds, Huddersfield is within a very easily commutable distance meaning that they would almost all drive to their game on the day and go back home after it. Even those that watched all games on any given day would not need to stay over. At most the Hull, Hull KR, Quins and Catalans fans would have to stay over for the weekend and I think that the Hull clubs fans would be equally likely not to stay over in Manchester and to attend their own clubs' games and go home.

As a consequence the potential for income to local businesses would be much poorer (they would make the same if not more when City or United are at home than they would from this event) in Manchester than it would be for those in cities where most fans had to travel a long distance to get to. There is less incentive for Manchester's tourist board therefore to put in a large bid to stage the event. So even if Manchester have submitted a bid to host it (Richard Lewis said on Thursday on BBC Radio Manchester that a number of cities are interested but didn't name any) their bid is unlikely to be equal to the amount bid by cities such as Edinburgh, Cardiff, Newcastle, Dublin, London (used as examples due to posters suggesting them) that would stand to make much more from tourism while hosting this weekend.

A Manchester bid would be unlikely to be accepted therefore over other bidding cities even if one was made as it would mean less profit for the RFL so less value in holding the event.

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Tue May 04, 2010 9:12 am  

The popular suggestion seems to be take it to Newcastle, however IIRC I'm sure I read somewhere that Newcastle has a surprisingly low number of hotel beds available for a city of it's size. That may be a problem for an event like this.

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Tue May 04, 2010 9:31 am  

Derwent wrote:

The popular suggestion seems to be take it to Newcastle, however IIRC I'm sure I read somewhere that Newcastle has a surprisingly low number of hotel beds available for a city of it's size. That may be a problem for an event like this.

I do know it is pretty hard to get room discounts on a weekend, weather that is down to lack of rooms or hoteliers just determined to keep prices close to rack rate. There are a number of options though with a couple of campsite/caravan places just up the coast.

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Tue May 04, 2010 9:55 am  

Or you could travel in?

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Tue May 04, 2010 11:27 am  

Big Graeme wrote:

I'll take that as a no then.
Suggest you read the thread and others on this topic, you'll find your answers.

So you haven't given any answers yet again. Are you a politician?

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Tue May 04, 2010 11:50 am  

wiganermike wrote:

Leaving to one side all debate over the stadia within Manchester and whether the resident clubs/ stadium owners would want this event on their pitches.

Manchester for the fans of Wigan, Wire, Saints, Salford, Crusaders, Cas, Wakey, Bradford, Leeds, Huddersfield is within a very easily commutable distance meaning that they would almost all drive to their game on the day and go back home after it. Even those that watched all games on any given day would not need to stay over. At most the Hull, Hull KR, Quins and Catalans fans would have to stay over for the weekend and I think that the Hull clubs fans would be equally likely not to stay over in Manchester and to attend their own clubs' games and go home.

As a consequence the potential for income to local businesses would be much poorer (they would make the same if not more when City or United are at home than they would from this event) in Manchester than it would be for those in cities where most fans had to travel a long distance to get to. There is less incentive for Manchester's tourist board therefore to put in a large bid to stage the event. So even if Manchester have submitted a bid to host it (Richard Lewis said on Thursday on BBC Radio Manchester that a number of cities are interested but didn't name any) their bid is unlikely to be equal to the amount bid by cities such as Edinburgh, Cardiff, Newcastle, Dublin, London (used as examples due to posters suggesting them) that would stand to make much more from tourism while hosting this weekend.

A Manchester bid would be unlikely to be accepted therefore over other bidding cities even if one was made as it would mean less profit for the RFL so less value in holding the event.

Given the ease of travel, i think you would get people staying longer and becoming more involved in the event itself. No day trippers rushing to get home because they have a long trip back. I don't know what the breakdown is of those who day tripped or bought tickets for both days.

Any potential drop in whatever payments are made could easily be covered by a huge increase in ticket sales. 52,000 tickets sold for Edinburgh, I can't see any reason why that won't top 80,000 in Manchester.

I personally think you'd get an awful lot of younger fans having a night out in Manchester and staying over, and it would make it a hell of a lot cheaper for families to go along.

No one knows what the deal RFL has with Edinburgh, but is this event primarily a money maker? Given the huge population around the AGMA region, and the complete lack of development that goes on, isn't it about balancing profit and development of the game?

Re: The Magic Weekend 2010 : Tue May 04, 2010 1:51 pm  

I just said on another thread, Wire Catalans got 18,000 in Barcelona just last year.
Take the magic weekend there, I bet it wouldnt cost much more