: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:41 am  

vastman wrote:

Nt against Australia we didn't, lets not pretend.

who is pretending, the facts speak for themselves

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:43 am  

vastman wrote:

Oh give up with the campy Dr Evil talk, your fooling no one. You're just a sad ar*e who gets there kicks playing what they see as oh so funny mind games.

I suggest you get out and get laid, who or what with is of no concern to me.

Am I. Oh dear

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:46 am  

The Clan wrote:

So now that Hull FC have completed the signing of Sam Moa are we to expect a barrage of criticism toward the Hull FC club.

For the record Moa is about the same age but played less NRL games last year than Winterstein.

yes, Hull shouldnt be signing players the quality of Moa, they should be looking at a higher quality,

however Hull themselves mitigate the the criticism by having only 5 other overseas players rather than 10

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:48 am  

Sandal Wild Cat wrote:

Name 3 openly transfer listed RL forwards of FW's quality.


There is no-one about!!!

We have a policy of buying british, we have a larger number of local lads in our team Vs Hudd, and i dare say a few better prospects than any local lads in your ranks. Jay Pitts for one my friend.
However when times need you must buy, and due to VERY unfortunate things happening to players (namely forwards) at our club we have been forced to make a signing which will give our squad greater depth, and of course quality otherwise why waste the money?
Why you feel the need to take out your own issues with the home office through slagging off another team is beyond me.

thats fine, but why not release/sell one of the other 10 you have to balance the books as it were?

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:48 am  

Marsdengiant wrote:

You obviously have difficulty thinking. You cannot understand the differnce between signing a reserve grade player and signing a player who was a reserve grade player many years ago who has since played many 1st grade games

What you are unable to understand is that korki had several years 1st grade SL experience when we signed him. Every player starts in the reserve grades. The issue is should long established SL clubs resort to topping up their squad with Oz reserve grade players. Some people think it is poor and a backward step. It would seem many Wakey fans want to support it. If the Giants had 10 years continuous SL presence and they signed a Roosters reserve grader I would be appalled.

But he is still cack

[tb]

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:49 am  

He is.



But thanks Hudds for taking him off our hands.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:50 am  

Fordy wrote:

So because you think they are proven NRL players it makes it OK for a club like Wigan who have been in SL since its inception, have never had any financial worries and never realistically had to firefight to avoid relegation to replace up and coming British youngsters with antipodeans.


Look at the players these signings are holding back, although you probably think it's OK for Wigan to do this so you can get some more of their cast-offs to make your own side look like it is promoting British talent.

My point being that Wigan are (and always have been) in a much stronger position than us to provide young British talent with a place in a SL team and they don't do it. Yet you only want to slag us off. Look around, there are worse clubs than Wakey.

Try not to put words in my mouth. i never said anything like your first para.

I agree that many oveseas players may hold back youngsters. Do you have the integrity to condemn your own club for going this.And for doing it with a reserve grader. on wigan 'cast offs' I see Gleeson is going well for you. I am delighted he is getting 1st team rugby.

I have not 'slagged' off wakey in this thread. I have said that taking on a reserve grade NRL guy is poor. Hardly slagging off - not where i come from.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:55 am  

Fordy wrote:

Not entirely sure but you could try taking a look at Wigan who have a good youth development policy and are still running with a squad of 10 overseas players.
Amos Roberts
George Carmont
Pat Richards
Tim Smith
Thomas Leuluai
Mark Riddell
Iafeta Palea'asina
Phil Bailey
Cameron Phelps
Harrison Hansen?

Given this is a club with more money than most clubs how do they justify it? But you don't seem bothered about slagging them off, just us.

i have criticised them plenty, and Brian noble, it is pathetic and they should be embarrassed

Wigan have some real quality young players who simply arent getting a shot because of the overseas players, why they need phelps and roberts when they have young british players like Ainscough, and Goulding i have no idea,

the only think i would defend them on is Hanson can't under any logical step be counted as an overseas player, he was born, schooled, and trained here, he came through the british RL system and hasnt lived elsewhere,

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:55 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Michael Korkidas, NRL reserve grader, subsequently has got worse as he has played the last five years in a 'second tier’ comp’

Do you believe that Korkidas would be a first grade player if he was back in the NRL? I am of the opinion that he would not be, therefore he is still NRL reserve grade quality…. and an import to boot, Deary me Giants, the birth place of RL, all that money and investment from a wealthy backer, a number of productive years in SL since promotion under their belt, an excellent youth academy and still signing a NRL reserve grade quality import, how disgraceful.

If that is the best you can come up with you are spent. 10 years in SL and you knee jerk and sign a reserve grade player. wow you guys have really progressed.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:56 am  

tb wrote:

He is.



But thanks Hudds for taking him off our hands.

he is, absolutely,

but he also has the same pedigree as Frank Winterstein, 8 first grade appearances in Aus and a couple of Schoolboy caps