: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:35 am  

BIGAL1 wrote:

My backs fine but thanks for the concern.

You have been doing it for yonks on here can't i have my turn


Oh and i stand by my point about the so called "idiots" knowing more than you, thats probably why you don't visit.

ill happily visit, though im sure as usual as soon as you and your more erm 'knowledgeable' posters start getting shown up, you will be in their quickly to hand out bans and close threads like usual

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:36 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

6 is still much less than 11,

Moa would have been their 7th, still less than 11 but try not to tweak the facts to strengthen your argument.

and Wakefield dont need you to make excuses and patronise them, they are an SL club like the others, and can have the same high standards demanded of them,

Who's making excuses, I'm just stating the facts which you choose to ignore for some reason.
Standards demanded by who? Certainly not you, sorry to burst your bubble fella but you won't even register on Wakefields radar.

SmokeyTA wrote:

where is the evidence wakefield are 'getting there'? where is the evidence that Wakefields youth development programme is now good enough, and will allow wakefield to sustain themselves and make a real contribution to the league?

The eveidence is down at Belle Vue every day, why not go down and see it for yourself it may put your mind at rest. While you're there why not introduce yourself and explain your concerns about this decision to sign FW.

Who said tat Wakefields youth development was good enough? It's not but neither is Leeds (Ask Barry McDermott)! Whats important is that each club continues to improve its youth development programe.

SmokeyTA wrote:

most clubs? how many other clubs are looking at bringing over their 11th overseas player for the season?

You are obviously struggling to understand that last paragraph so here it is again and I've spaced it out for you to give you a chance to comprehend what it ACTUALY says rather than the distorted meaning you heard in your head.

most.....clubs.....will.....need.....to.....bolster.....their.....team/squad.....with.....overseas.....signings.....of.....varied.....experience.....and....quality.....all.....subject.....to.....the.....circumstances.....prevailing.....at.....the.....time.

I've tried to help you and your narrow band of understanding, whether you're capable of learning will obviously be reflected in your next few posts.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:40 am  

I have a simply question really. It's very easy to label a player as a reserve grader, but how does a young player, change from a reserve grade player to a first team without a club taking a chance on them? Because at some point every single player has played reserve grade have they not?

Does that not mean every player could be labelled as reserve grade? Or is this label being used to try and help a particular members arguement?

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:43 am  

this is a fairly simple concept to understand, and i honestly cant think of a way to dumb it down any more, so ill just repeat it to you, in hope you will read it, and as for some reason you think putting ..... inbetween words makes them easier to read, ill do that for you aswell


yes

most.....clubs.....will.....need.....to.....bolster.....their.....team/squad.....with.....overseas.....signings.....of.....varied.....experience.....and....quality.....all.....subject.....to.....the.....circumstances.....prevailing.....at.....the.....time

but

how....many.....other....clubs......have......done......so......poorly....that....the....prevailing......circumstances......demand.....they......bolster......their.....squad.....with....ELEVEN.....overseas.....players

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:44 am  

Marsdengiant wrote:

The bottom line is that a large proportion of your squad is overseas. If you put your energy and money into 4 less overseas players you would have space for at least 4 more UK players. You have known since the middle of last year that you will not be relegated this year so why knee jerk? Develop talent not sign samoan youngsters.

Does that mean you can't answer the question?

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:45 am  

Trinity Till Death wrote:

I have a simply question really. It's very easy to label a player as a reserve grader, but how does a young player, change from a reserve grade player to a first team without a club taking a chance on them? Because at some point every single player has played reserve grade have they not?

Does that not mean every player could be labelled as reserve grade? Or is this label being used to try and help a particular members arguement?

you are correct, a reserve grader needs someone to take a shot on them so they can move from reserve grade to first grade,

so why not give that opportunity to a british player

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:46 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

this is a fairly simple concept to understand, and i honestly cant think of a way to dumb it down any more, so ill just repeat it to you, in hope you will read it, and as for some reason you think putting ..... inbetween words makes them easier to read, ill do that for you aswell


yes

most.....clubs.....will.....need.....to.....bolster.....their.....team/squad.....with.....overseas.....signings.....of.....varied.....experience.....and....quality.....all.....subject.....to.....the.....circumstances.....prevailing.....at.....the.....time

but

how....many.....other....clubs......have......done......so......poorly....that....the....prevailing......circumstances......demand.....they......bolster......their.....squad.....with....ELEVEN.....overseas.....players

I've tried to help you and your narrow band of understanding, whether you're capable of learning will obviously be reflected in your next few posts.

Obviously not!

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:49 am  

The Clan wrote:

Who's making excuses, I'm just stating the facts which you choose to ignore for some reason.
Standards demanded by who? Certainly not you, sorry to burst your bubble fella but you won't even register on Wakefields radar.

you are making excuses, oh no bigger boys are better than us, we are sh1tty little wakefield we cant do as well as the bigger boys, blah blah blah, you are in SL, you should make the same contribution as everyone else, if not expect to get criticised for it

The eveidence is down at Belle Vue every day, why not go down and see it for yourself it may put your mind at rest. While you're there why not introduce yourself and explain your concerns about this decision to sign FW.

Who said tat Wakefields youth development was good enough? It's not but neither is Leeds (Ask Barry McDermott)! Whats important is that each club continues to improve its youth development programe.

why isnt the evidence making it on to the pitch in wakefield colours every week then?

and you're right, leeds youth development isnt perfect, and there huge potential for improvement, but its about 10 times better than most in the league, so right now, its fine

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:49 am  

SmokeyTA wrote:

you may not be, but clearly your not making enough of an effor to find them

I think you'll find that we are making big steps in this area but you cannot bring 15 and 16 year olds in to play Super League as you'll destroy them.

In the past we have relied very heavily on imports rather than developing players for well documented reasons. Over the last few years that policy has improved and we are now developing more players at youth level but they need to be given some time to reach maturity before being shoved into playing SL.

You can ask for proof but until they are old enough who can say whether they will work out or not.
In the same way you can't prove at the moment that the next crop of Leeds youngsters will all make SL players (until they are playing at that level how can you judge?).

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:50 am  

I've missed most of this thread. Could someone give me a precis of what it is that the RFL and Wakey are singing about?