: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:21 pm  

Alexs Dad wrote:

2012 - 12 clubs (not enough British/French quality for 14)

Saints
Wigan
Wire
Widnes

Bradford
Leeds
Hull
Huddersfield

Quins
Celtic

Catalans
Toulouse

A strong 14 team Championship of.....

Salford, Wakey, Cas, Fev, HKR, Halifax, Leigh, Oldham, Barrow, Whitehaven, Doncaster, Sheffield, Gateshead, and either Batley or Dewsbury.

2015 - 14 team SL

The original 12 plus Gatehead and Barrow (and be open about it too dont hide behind it by nudging criteria and turning blind eyes). You have a game them that is as national as it could ever really be over the next 20 years.

Then swap 2 from the original SL with 2 from the Championship based on on-pitch merit alone. Not geography, not baby changing facities, not stadia.....good old fasioned on pitch performances.

If its Celtic, Quins, or Toulouse then tough, by 2015 it would speak volumes anyway.

Ground pending, whats your difference in quality of the highlighted teams? ...just curious

: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:27 pm  

to be fair Wire are having an off season we have been a hell of a lot better than CAS over the the past few years

: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:28 pm  

classycas2009 wrote:

Ground pending, whats your difference in quality of the highlighted teams? ...just curious

Personally I'd rather it be on what you do on the pitch but thats another story.

So, getting in touch with the times and using Richard Lewis rules.......you have a poop ground (and probably still will come 2012) and are too close to others.

Same goes for Salford, HKR, and Wakey.

Sorry

: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:47 pm  

Featherstone and Barrow

: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:50 pm  

Alexs Dad wrote:

Personally I'd rather it be on what you do on the pitch but thats another story.

So, getting in touch with the times and using Richard Lewis rules.......you have a poop ground (and probably still will come 2012) and are too close to others.

Same goes for Salford, HKR, and Wakey.

Sorry

Well if were stuck with a poop ground then yeah, we deserve to be gone, but if its built, we have just as much rights as any other team. maybe others are too close to us and not the other way round eh
As for what we do on the pitch, that can only be assest over next 3 years, and were not off to a bad start

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:13 am  

Cas has done very well on the pitch this year.

Terry Matterson is a good coach, and he has recruited very well. The likes of Sherwin and others being added to the two previous standouts (McGoldrick and Westerman) have been good choices by Matterson.

The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .

But the problem is that the town has a very small population (much bigger than tiny Fev but still very small) and doesn't add too many new subscriptions to the Sky accounts.

The damned sensible thing as I have said many times (following Uncle Mo) is to have a Calder United club --- not a merger -- whereby Wakey and Cas and Fev have their own identity in the Championship, but a west Yorkshire club encompassing all three areas of greater Wakefield plays in Super League.

If the clubs cannot see this reality then they will have to stand or fall on the strict enforcement of the 10 SL criteria the RFL has set up. They cannot ever satisfy the geography criterion, obviously. But they can satisfy the stadium criterion. If they do not, then I think that they have to go down -- which will not be so bad for them, nor for rugby league in Yorkshire. The Championship is getting better, and wealthier and more prestigious than ever before.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:47 am  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

Cas has done very well on the pitch this year.

Terry Matterson is a good coach, and he has recruited very well. The likes of Sherwin and others being added to the two previous standouts (McGoldrick and Westerman) have been good choices by Matterson.

The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .

But the problem is that the town has a very small population (much bigger than tiny Fev but still very small) and doesn't add too many new subscriptions to the Sky accounts.

The damned sensible thing as I have said many times (following Uncle Mo) is to have a Calder United club --- not a merger -- whereby Wakey and Cas and Fev have their own identity in the Championship, but a west Yorkshire club encompassing all three areas of greater Wakefield plays in Super League.

If the clubs cannot see this reality then they will have to stand or fall on the strict enforcement of the 10 SL criteria the RFL has set up. They cannot ever satisfy the geography criterion, obviously. But they can satisfy the stadium criterion. If they do not, then I think that they have to go down -- which will not be so bad for them, nor for rugby league in Yorkshire. The Championship is getting better, and wealthier and more prestigious than ever before.

Clubs can pull people from places other than the town they are based. Cas for instance can pull from Castleford, Pontefract, Featherstone, Selby, Wakefield, Leeds, Doncaster, Huddersfield, Bradford.

But I think you fail to see that so I'm going to nothing your posts as per usual.

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:53 am  

My ideal Super League would see it have a maximum of 20 clubs:

1) Hull KR
2) Hull FC
3) Leeds
4) Bradford
5) Huddersfield
6) Sheffield
7) Wakefield
8) Castleford
9) Salford
10) Wigan
11) St Helens
12) Widnes
13) Warrington
14) Leigh
15) Celtic
16) Harlequins
17) Gateshead
18) Catalans
19) Toulouse
20) A Cumbrian team whether it is an existing club or a new franchise

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:01 am  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

Cas has done very well on the pitch this year.

Terry Matterson is a good coach, and he has recruited very well. The likes of Sherwin and others being added to the two previous standouts (McGoldrick and Westerman) have been good choices by Matterson.

The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .

But the problem is that the town has a very small population (much bigger than tiny Fev but still very small) and doesn't add too many new subscriptions to the Sky accounts.

The damned sensible thing as I have said many times (following Uncle Mo) is to have a Calder United club --- not a merger -- whereby Wakey and Cas and Fev have their own identity in the Championship, but a west Yorkshire club encompassing all three areas of greater Wakefield plays in Super League.

If the clubs cannot see this reality then they will have to stand or fall on the strict enforcement of the 10 SL criteria the RFL has set up. They cannot ever satisfy the geography criterion, obviously. But they can satisfy the stadium criterion. If they do not, then I think that they have to go down -- which will not be so bad for them, nor for rugby league in Yorkshire. The Championship is getting better, and wealthier and more prestigious than ever before.

Been a Cas fan through and through (born n bread) for the last 30 years, I would go for "stand or fall" and all beign well and the stadium producess, I know the Tigers could "stand" their ground with the best and the rest.
The town has a very intense rugby league tradition, and probably one of the best ratios of spectators to town population in all of world rugby league .
Do you think the highlighted part deserves a team in The Champoinship or fight for thier OWN idenity in SL?
Castleford "town" maybe be small, but if and yes, thats a if, the ground goes ahead, there would be many surrounding areas that Cas would attract new fans, e.g Allerton Bywater, Kippax, Ferrybridge, Pontefract, Rothwell, Normanton and Methley (all of which are tradition rugby areas for amater RL), and then theres the one who begrudge paying £18 to get into the Jungle. A new ground would definataly push our average attendances over 10,000
Surley you couldnt take away a "top flight" RL team, just because theres not anoth Sky sports subscribers within the "town"

: Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:34 am  

Red Red Robin wrote:

My ideal Super League would see it have a maximum of 20 clubs:

1) Hull KR
2) Hull FC
3) Leeds
4) Bradford
5) Huddersfield
6) Sheffield
7) Wakefield
Castleford
9) Salford
10) Wigan
11) St Helens
12) Widnes
13) Warrington
14) Leigh
15) Celtic
16) Harlequins
17) Gateshead
18) Catalans
19) Toulouse
20) A Cumbrian team whether it is an existing club or a new franchise

Are you p*ssed?