us wire fans are loyal and we've been watching cack for years

A Bradford fan that thinks everyone is against them. Nothing new here either.



If it helps, people were commenting on how low your crowds were before you had even won, so it's nothing to do with the reason you state. You're just defensive.







Ah, so when it's to do with Bradford, the activities are to do with the entire county. But when it's to do with anyone else, it's just their individual towns/cities. I like your fair comparison





There's knack all to do in Bradford. You have to go to Leeds to find something decent to do. Don't forget that St Helens is right next to Liverpool and Wigan next to Manchester also. So there goes your regional comparison.



Bradford found something that worked to get the crowds in, and either that no longer works or they no longer have the ability to make it work anymore. The questions are what they were, how they worked, and why they aren't working anymore.

Still more than were at Saints v Leeds a few weeks ago.

suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in

or less than Leeds v Saints last week.

Total RL & now here

I was too ed to count but I said to my dad it's a 16k crowd

In the gaps not taken up by an extra 10 thousand people?

No way. Loads of room...everywhere

Yes, that's true. But the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league.

If we get a roof on the popular side and STILL get 14k against Leeds then I think mocking us is fair game. Until then its a fruitless exercise in comparing crowds at roofed stadiums with the hideous hole we play in.



The fact that we managed to pull in 15k for smaller games back in the day is merely testament to the staggering quality of the marketing going on back then. That marketing budget no longer exists.

But Saints have never averaged around 15k or whatever Bulls did, which means they've [ilost[/i fans.

hmmm...where did that money go?

headingly isnt brilliant but atleast its sheltered and on a cold rainy night standing on the terrace at odsal isnt the most appealing thing to do especially when the games on sky.

but i suppose you need something to moan about

Not at all.



I'm just perplexed that I log on here having got back from the game, and all I see are threads having a go at Bradford's crowds and threads having a go at the officials (to name but two). Nothing about the game itself. Yet when Bradford lose, we get "Bradford are Finished" - type threads. You don't have to be partisan to see a theme there?

So you're annoyed that everyone isn't singing Bradford's praises and suggesting Bradford are going to storm to the top of the league now? Is that it?



It was a poor crowd for what is supposed to be one of SL's biggest games. People are allowed to comment on it. They hardly won convincingly, so not many people are going to suggest that Bradford are on the up and up.

Is Saints vs Leeds a derby game?



What a completely ridiculous comparison!

Problem? Am I not allowed to talk about RL matters on two RL forums? It's not like I started either thread, is it?

try being a huddersfield fan for over 20 years then you'll know what cack is









i'd suggest its because you are no longer winning things

No, it's a top of the table clash. Even if you contest the comparison, I repeat, the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league.

No its not, and no amount of anyone trying to twist what I said will make it so.



I simply repeat - I'm perplexed at how when Bulls lose we get threads on here saying Bulls are finished, whereas when they win (rather less often of late) we seem to get threads instead about peripheral matters finding something else to knock about Bradford.



Incidentally, the crowd was over 500 HIGHER than the corresponding fixture last year. That despite our dreadful start to the year, the fact that being Good Friday many people were away on holiday (several season ticket holders sitting near me where) and the fact that this is no longer a "top of the table" clash. Reading this thread though, you'd think the crowds were plummeting compared to last year.

You do know what position Wigan are in dont you?

Whereas Leeds, of course, do not have any gloryhunting fans. Oh no. In 2003 when they had 12 out of 14 home gates smaller than we had yesterday, for example (but 23,035 against us).



No, we are the only club in world sport where more fans attend to watch the champion team. Every other sports team across the globe has 100% true, loyal, dyed-in-the-wool fans who always attend, 100%, and all would even if they never won a game in a century.



And our lack of success presumably led to the attendance being roughly 3.5% UP on last year.



Another real rubbish trolling attempt

at you comparing a game between teams from different counties on a Friday after work to your local derby on a bank holiday.

Christ-on-a-bike, you people are thick. Do I have to repeat it a third time?



You may not accept the comparison of the two games v'ers Leeds. However, overall, on average, by the statistical mean, if you add the the attendances up and divide them by the number of games , the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league