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| Quote therobins="therobins"Chose not to reply because I couldn't stop laughing!
So the 'achievements' of Celtic (ooh, a grand final) far outweigh anything that Widnes have ever achieved do they?'"
You would hope a club that has been around since the beginning of rugby league would have achieved a lot more than a club formed 3 and a half years ago.
Quote therobins="therobins"You probably wouldn't know this but Widnes were also runners-up in a grand final in recent years and that didn't result in them being promoted, did it?'"
No, because only one club went up that year. This previous year, two clubs were entered into the league. Had it been P&R, I'm pretty sure that club would have been Celtic on the evidence that they were in the top two teams in the league...
Quote therobins="therobins"And I'm the idiot!'"
No comment.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"You would hope a club that has been around since the beginning of rugby league would have achieved a lot more than a club formed 3 and a half years ago.
No, because only one club went up that year. This previous year, two clubs were entered into the league. Had it been P&R, I'm pretty sure that club would have been Celtic on the evidence that they were in the top two teams in the league...
No comment.'"
That totally justifies their inclusion, then. Thanks! 
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| Quote therobins="therobins"That totally justifies their inclusion, then. Thanks!
'" Nobody needs to justify anything to you.
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"You would hope a club that has been around since the beginning of rugby league would have achieved a lot more than a club formed 3 and a half years ago.
No, because only one club went up that year. This previous year, two clubs were entered into the league.=red Had it been P&R, I'm pretty sure that club would have been Celtic on the evidence that they were in the top two teams in the league...
No comment.'"
No it would have been Salford as they won the GF
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| Quote Wes Hooligan="Wes Hooligan"Nobody needs to justify anything to you.'"
Don't you just love a cyber bully?
Have it your way. However, I've stated the facts. You really just need to deal with it.
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| Quote therobins="therobins"Don't you just love a cyber bully?
Have it your way. However, I've stated the facts. You really just need to deal with it.'" A 'cyber bully'? Get a grip
You haven't stated any facts. Your argument is based on absolutely nothing of any substance, so deserves all the ridicule it has attracted.
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| Quote Wes Hooligan="Wes Hooligan"A 'cyber bully'? Get a grip
You haven't stated any facts. Your argument is based on absolutely nothing of any substance, so deserves all the ridicule it has attracted.'"
Hes right though, they bring nothing to SL other than a nice new location
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| Quote roversmad="roversmad"Hes right though, they bring nothing to SL other than a nice new location'"
is that sarcasm?
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"is that sarcasm?'"
No, why?
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| Quote roversmad="roversmad"Hes right though, they bring nothing to SL other than a nice new location'" What would Widnes have brought? What do any of the clubs bring? 
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| Quote roversmad="roversmad"No, why?'"
cos bridgend isn't nice
... and i think they bring something. either way, theyre there and a few fans moaning about it won't change that.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"cos bridgend isn't nice
... and i think they bring something. either way, theyre there and a few fans moaning about it won't change that.'"
a super league with toulouse in but no widnes would look even more ridiculous than one with celtic in but no widnes.
it would seem in these transition years history, fanbase, local interest and tradition count for absolutely nothing
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| Quote bluesox4evaaa="bluesox4evaaa"a super league with toulouse in but no widnes would look even more ridiculous than one with celtic in but no widnes.'"
you're getting a bit ahead of yourself. or do you know something we don't?
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"you're getting a bit ahead of yourself. or do you know something we don't?'"
the stadement holds up on its own whether it happens or not
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| Quote bluesox4evaaa="bluesox4evaaa"the statement holds up on its own whether it happens or not'" 
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"Mr. Bowes has no evidence.
He is just a deeply depressed Midlander, with no professional rugby league team nearby, who is congenitally predisposed to pouring cold water on any project to build up French rugby league.
Mr Bowes has had this problem for years, and we who wish to see he growth of rugby league in France have had to endure his relentless negativity for years. Unfortunately there seems to be no cure for this kind of knee jerk negativity because he refuses to admit that he has a problem.'"
No I support Catalans in SL and I would support Toulouse in SL if they were good enough, but I don't support wasting money on shipping semi-pro sides in international travel, whereas the RFL wouldn't lift a finger to help the game in the midlands and have actively killed off semi-pro RL in the midlands before
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| Obviously Toulouse has the talent to make the Championship playoffs, and maybe even the Grand Final, this year. Any new acquisitions from the LER will only strengthen them.
With all this talk of Celtic Crusaders being in trouble with their ground there is a possibility that Crusaders will not see out their 3 year franchise license.
I sincerely hope that it is not true. But if the worst scenario regarding CC comes to pass, and the SL is down a side, perhaps it is possible that Toulouse will be elevated early (I say perhaps because I don't know what the rules are regarding licenses being awarded within the three year cycle). However I don't think that Toulouse can have the financial backing (sponsorship) necessary for Super League until we get through this global recession.
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"With all this talk of Celtic Crusaders being in trouble with their ground there is a possibility that Crusaders will not see out their 3 year franchise license.'"
What talk? 
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plenty of conjecture and rumour but some worrying points. especially this:
[i However, the worst aspect of this story that nobody has picked up on is that the Bridgend Ravens RUFC share of the purchase was directly funded by the WRU. That's the most disconcerting thing. [/i
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plenty of conjecture and rumour but some worrying points. especially this:
[i However, the worst aspect of this story that nobody has picked up on is that the Bridgend Ravens RUFC share of the purchase was directly funded by the WRU. That's the most disconcerting thing. [/i
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| In the case of Celtic not being able to fulfil SL duties after this year (hopefully not, and I think it's just a lot of hot air at the moment), would a team that comes up have only a 2-year license? Seems unfair given that they'll have less time to prepare a squad, etc. than the rest, and so might not be able to fulfil their duties as a business as much as the rest (which they would then be at risk of being dropped straight away).
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creates all kinds of problems. how would it affect the sky deal?
would SL stick with 13 teams?
how would they decide which club (if any) replaced celtic?
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"creates all kinds of problems. how would it affect the sky deal?
would SL stick with 13 teams?
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Would mean they had to scrap the Magic weekend, or give teams uneven number of home and away fixtures, so think they'd try to find a replacement
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| Quote Alice's Phallus="Alice's Phallus"Obviously Toulouse has the talent to make the Championship playoffs, and maybe even the Grand Final, this year. Any new acquisitions from the LER will only strengthen them.
With all this talk of Celtic Crusaders being in trouble with their ground there is a possibility that Crusaders will not see out their 3 year franchise license.
I sincerely hope that it is not true. But if the worst scenario regarding CC comes to pass, and the SL is down a side, perhaps it is possible that Toulouse will be elevated early (I say perhaps because I don't know what the rules are regarding licenses being awarded within the three year cycle). However I don't think that Toulouse can have the financial backing (sponsorship) necessary for Super League until we get through this global recession.'"
If that happens (and I hope it doesn't) then they should go for a safe bet with Widnes (and look at getting Toulouse in in 2012), as if another expansion club come in and go bust next year as replacements then the sport would be a laughing stock
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| Quote bowes="bowes"No ... whereas the RFL wouldn't lift a finger to help the game in the midlands and have actively killed off semi-pro RL in the midlands before'"
I'm not au fait with this. I started taking an interest in midlands RL the year after Cov-Brum were in the NL3 final, the year during which they both dropped out of NL3 ... Brum's ground is in North Birmingham, not a nice location unless you're into gang violence and the crowd was about 20 strong. Their website was difficult to find and not up to date. Their team was made up of Mosely RU players keeping fit in the summer, they got gutted when Mosely made a concerted effort for NL1.
So, I admit that I know nothing of their history before that - when was the golden age of midlands RL (not being faceatious, I would love to watch rugby in Brum/Cov ... though I'd rather the trip to Cov than the trip to Perry Bar).
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