Re: TV Deal : Tue May 10, 2011 3:39 pm  

eels fan wrote:

Anything over what the AFL got last (780 million) time will set the game up for the fight that's here now, the code has been defending itself with 1 arm tied behind its back for 15 years.

NRL clubs don't need as much money as that other code, so that 780 or whatever it will be will actually go a lot further than their 780 did.

but you also have to take into account that the AFL earns a shed load more $'s outside of its media deal than the NRL does and the clubs also have much greater incomes on the whole.

We need $8-900mill and an expansion plan that takes the game national and into a 2nd NZ city or we will be chasing the AFL forever more.

Re: TV Deal : Tue May 10, 2011 9:19 pm  

Does the AFL get more purely because it's shown in the five cities as opposed to the NRL in two?

That's the only logical explanation I can come to as to why a sport that is watched on telly by so many more, gets paid less. Is it the reach?

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 12:02 am  

The article by Roy Masters today clearly sets out the conflicts by News and fully explains why the NRL will get shafted despite being the number one TV product in Australia...

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 12:18 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Does the AFL get more purely because it's shown in the five cities as opposed to the NRL in two?

That's the only logical explanation I can come to as to why a sport that is watched on telly by so many more, gets paid less. Is it the reach?

Aren't fox desperate for subscribers in Vic, sa and wa?

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 12:51 am  

Rooster Booster wrote:

Is it the reach?

It is.

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 1:26 am  

TV ratings put RL miles ahead. Only Kim Williams knows why Fox paid more based on some fantasy which has failed previously ie. better sales in Vic, SA and WA...

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 2:45 am  

Oztam capital city ratings and conflict of interest/poor management of NRL are main reasons. Fox have paid out huge to get every game live as they know it will massively increase their subscriptions in 3 states. They already have large subscriptions in NSW and Q'land at a bargain price so it will be interesting to see who blinks first, Fox or NRL IC.

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 3:03 am  

WestCoaster wrote:

TV ratings put RL miles ahead. [/quote
Miles ahead of what? TV viewing figures show the NRL gets more viewers.....that is correct. To say the NRL is miles ahead is wrong. Where the TV that is tuned into the game, who is watching it, their demographic profile and a bundle of other factors determine who is "miles ahead"

WestCoaster wrote:

Only Kim Williams knows why Fox paid more based on some fantasy which has failed previously ie. better sales in Vic, SA and WA...

Objective, subjective and imaginative are three words often used to describe the thoughts of TV execs, Advertising Budget holders and the media in General. Only ploiticians are more self serving IMO.

As much as a sane person would look at straight viewing figures to assess the value of a sport.....I don't know many people in Media, TV and Sport promotion who are sane....

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 8:16 am  

JB Down Under wrote:

but you also have to take into account that the AFL earns a shed load more $'s outside of its media deal than the NRL does and the clubs also have much greater incomes on the whole.

We need $8-900mill and an expansion plan that takes the game national and into a 2nd NZ city or we will be chasing the AFL forever more.

Yep that's true, but the NRL does outsell the other mob in regards to merchandise and our memberships are just starting to take off.

This next deal is the one that can set the NRL up to take it to them, if it's a decent deal and the IC does all the right things, the deal after next years will be the interesting one for both codes.

Re: TV Deal : Wed May 11, 2011 8:58 am  

Seems like AFL and rugby league are set to move up a notch or two. Where does this leave soccer and union? How far is union from being classed as a minority sport?