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Re: Toulouse : Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:38 am  
My possible SL for 2021 expanded to 14 teams Jean :-

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Re: Toulouse : Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:23 am  
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My possible SL for 2021 expanded to 14 teams Jean :-

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Manchester Reds
Hull Sharks
London Storm
Wigan Warriors
St Helens
Warrington
Cumbria Bravehearts

Catalans Dragons
Toulouse Olympique

Toronto Wolves
Montreal Canadiens

The last 4 will have Schofield biting his flat cap in anger and kicking his whippet around the kitchen.
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Re: Toulouse : Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:08 pm  
Tigerade wrote:
My possible SL for 2021 expanded to 14 teams Jean :-

Leeds Rhinos
Bradford Bulls
Castleford Tigers
Manchester Reds
Hull Sharks
London Storm
Wigan Warriors
St Helens
Warrington
Cumbria Bravehearts

Catalans Dragons
Toulouse Olympique

Toronto Wolves
Montreal Canadiens


There is no way that a Cumbrian team is viable financially or supporter wise or logistically (where would you locate it?). The same verdict applies to Manchester.

If we are to go to 14 teams from the list that I proposed, then the new clubs should be London and Sheffield. If we go to 16 then the new clubs should be Avignon and Newcastle.
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Re: Toulouse : Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:19 pm  
Tigerade wrote:
My possible SL for 2021 expanded to 14 teams Jean :-

Leeds Rhinos
Bradford Bulls
Castleford Tigers
Manchester Reds
Hull Sharks
London Storm
Wigan Warriors
St Helens
Warrington
Cumbria Bravehearts

Catalans Dragons
Toulouse Olympique

Toronto Wolves
Montreal Canadiens


an nhl ice hockey team playing league? imagine the big hits :lol:
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:31 pm  
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There is no way that a Cumbrian team is viable financially or supporter wise or logistically (where would you locate it?). The same verdict applies to Manchester.

If we are to go to 14 teams from the list that I proposed, then the new clubs should be London and Sheffield. If we go to 16 then the new clubs should be Avignon and Newcastle.


The Cumbrian franchise would go well in Carlisle. Manchester likewise in Salford. Newcastle doesn't have a supporter base.
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:49 pm  
Is franchising making a return then?
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:44 pm  
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The Cumbrian franchise would go well in Carlisle. Manchester likewise in Salford. Newcastle doesn't have a supporter base.


Wouldn't bet on a Carlisle-based side being any better supported than one in Newcastle tbh. Whitehaven and worky must be the neck end of 40 miles away and Barrow'd be nearer 80.
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:18 pm  
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The Cumbrian franchise would go well in Carlisle. Manchester likewise in Salford. Newcastle doesn't have a supporter base.


How can you say that there is no support base in Newcastle and suggest Carlisle and Newcastle as alternatives :CRAZY:

Cumbria "deserves" to have a franchise (if we are going down that route) but, the 4 clubs in the county, Barrow, Carlisle, Workington & Whitehaven are spread too far apart to make it work.

Newcastle may be agood shout in the longer term but they and any Manchester would need a seriously wealthy backer and some top marketing to have any chance to succeed.

Koucash has got plenty of faults but he has done little to turn Salford into a "contender".

The guy in Toronto (Perez) does seem to know how to get the marketing side sorted and to generat the level of interest that Toronto have done from a stone cold start, shows what can be done but, there doesn't seem to be anyone of his calibre in RL on this side of the Atlantic.

RL needs to work out where it is going, although it does appear that a "super league" including 2 French clubs and 2 North American clubs could be a possibility. However, the logistics of flying teams to Canada on a regular basis does need some serious thought.

We have had a number of failed expansion clubs and if the sport was serious about having a more diverse top flight, we should have retained the "franchise" model and supported the likes of Sheffield, London and Crusaders and made sure that they were successful (in terms of being stable).
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Re: Toulouse : Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:36 pm  
if franchising came in like this, no way would cas be a stand alone club




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Re: Toulouse : Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:03 pm  
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if franchising came in like this, no way would cas be a stand alone club




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You are correct. It would be combined with woeful Wakefield to form Calder United.
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