Ferocious Aardvark wrote:
So true!
Yes, and so you understand the point, but what you still fail to take into account is that
a) the ball "appearing" to be so far to the right, relative to the post, on a 2D image, is an optical illusion and
b) the exaggerated effect of the illusion as the ball gets very near is exaggerated the nearer it gets - but exists, to an exponentially increasing extent, from the moment the ball leaves the boot.
This is key, because you base your conclusions on which instant you "think" the ball was over the post (which in fairness has to be a guess, even on a 3D screen or in real life unless you have synchronised end-on and goal-line cameras) but I base my conclusions partly on the fact that if the ball from brough's boot to crossing the plane of the posts had already moved from not between the posts, then it could not have ended up where it did without swerving.
But it's still your best guess, as is mine. I'm confident my images show it to be outside the post, you're confident yours show otherwise. I'm not gonig to convince you, and as much as I get what you're saying your images don't convince me. Unless we can pinpoint the EXACT moment the ball crosses the goal line and cross-check both images, we'll never be certain no matter how many graphics we throw together.
But again, according to my images:
Pic 1: the ball is kicked left of the upright, by 2-3 metres. It has to be; Brough is left of the upright and kicks it on his left. It is nowhere near the goal line.
Pic 2: the ball is still left of the upright, by approximately the same margin. Still some distance from the goal line.
Pic 3: the ball is in line with the upright - this is absolutely key, as this is still before it crosses the goal line. At whatever point it crosses the goal from here, it's not a DG. It simply can't be, even taking camera angle into account, unless the ball suddenly veers right, which it doesn't.
Pic 4: the ball is outside the upright, and remains outside from here. Because we now know where the ball started out side the post and never came inside, we know this to be the actual case and not a trick of perspective.
Therefore, it can never have been inside the upright. We can take perspective into account because we know the starting point of the ball relative to the post (to the left) and as we follow its progress we can see it was at best over the post but probably outside it when it crossed the goal line, and therefore not a DG. The camera is far enough from the posts that the angle at that point actually makes little difference. What does matter is when the ball crosses the goal line and I'm off the opinion that was between pic 3 and 4, and therefore wide.
