: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:58 pm  

Alexs Dad wrote:

The Quays and everything wonderful it brings has been a growth area for at least 10 years and hasnt had any noticable effect on the club. The largest industrial park in Europe is on its doorstep for a hundred years. Again, little effect.

The supposed new ground in Barton is as far removed from the Quays as Ordsall or Weaste is.

Take one loyal and much respected servant away and they could easily be Swinton.

Malcom Alker?

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumped? : Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:08 pm  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

Salford have failed to impress so far.

Two games in. One win, one loss. What's your teams win/loss record this season.

They have beaten Celtic at home and then got thumped by the lowly Wakefield. (Take the Aussies Demetriou, Drew, and Blanch out of the side and Wakefield is not a SL standard team).

Wakefield are a decent team. Okay, they aren't full of individually brilliant players but they have generally been greater than the sum of their parts.

Their first home ground attendance of 4,026 was abysmal. It was exceeded by the home game crowd of Celtic Crusaders and Harlequins this weekend.

It was on TV, which didn't help. Not to mention that there was no away support. Granted we should not rely on away support but the crowd wasn't too bad all things considered.

But then our crowds have generally been disappointing. A new ground wth better facilities for home and away fans, and the increased investment in the team, should see a decent improvement.

Regardless, we deserve our place in SL. After all, we were the best team in NL1 and the authorities thought we were good enough for a franchise. We deserve to be in SL on merit.

I will say with confidence that our crowds will exceed those of Quins and Celtic over the season. Although that doesn't really matter.

Salford have some very good players but a poor coach and administration.

Do we have a poor administration? Richard Lewis doesn't appear to think so.

Can you please tell us the strengths and weaknesses of our adminsitration? I expect you to use facts to answer this.

TBH Salford's wakness for many years has been the relatively poor playing squad.

The coach, who is personally a lovely man and a good TV commentator for sure, is not respected in Australia as a coach.

Who respects Jimmy Lowes' coaching abilities?

How many trophies has Lowes won as a coach? How many coaches in SL have won more silverware than SM?

If the new stadium does not get under construction by early 2011, and their crowds do not increase to over 6,000, then I would expect that the RFL has every right to dump them.

We probably don't deserve our place in SL if we don't meet those conditions. However, the decision will be made by well-informed people with knoweldge about the game and not by people like you.


BTW Wood Green smells of wee. It really does. I pity you living there.

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumped? : Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:13 pm  

Cadoo! wrote:

The standard in super league is very poor. I'd like to know how many players currently in super league are what people would call "super league standard".

And don't big up Wakefield beating Wigan either. Given the way we're playing at the moment Warrington Wizards could probably beat us.

I'm sorry - I thought this was a Rugby League forum - you remember that game, the one where tough men tough-it-out and defence is rewarded with points on the board.

All of a sudden, because barring Leeds & Saints there seems to be some parity amongst clubs, the standard has to be 'poor'. I just can't believe the reaction of some 'fans' to the fact they just may have to 'slum-it' with the rest - this is the future of the game - the one where no one side, or even 4 sides, will be able to dominate. Get used to it!

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumpe : Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:36 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Two games in. One win, one loss. What's your teams win/loss record this season.



Wakefield are a decent team. Okay, they aren't full of individually brilliant players but they have generally been greater than the sum of their parts.



It was on TV, which didn't help. Not to mention that there was no away support. Granted we should not rely on away support but the crowd wasn't too bad all things considered.

But then our crowds have generally been disappointing. A new ground wth better facilities for home and away fans, and the increased investment in the team, should see a decent improvement.

Regardless, we deserve our place in SL. After all, we were the best team in NL1 and the authorities thought we were good enough for a franchise. We deserve to be in SL on merit.

I will say with confidence that our crowds will exceed those of Quins and Celtic over the season. Although that doesn't really matter.



Do we have a poor administration? Richard Lewis doesn't appear to think so.

Can you please tell us the strengths and weaknesses of our adminsitration? I expect you to use facts to answer this.

TBH Salford's wakness for many years has been the relatively poor playing squad.



Who respects Jimmy Lowes' coaching abilities?

How many trophies has Lowes won as a coach? How many coaches in SL have won more silverware than SM?



We probably don't deserve our place in SL if we don't meet those conditions. However, the decision will be made by well-informed people with knoweldge about the game and not by people like you.


BTW Wood Green smells of wee. It really does. I pity you living there.

Don't fall into the trap mate, please. Wakefield actually have quite a few top quality players it just doesn't suit the elitists on here to admit it. Drew (obviously), Brough, Obst, Atkins, Latu and Rooney all proven gamebreakers and all chased at various times by "BIG" clubs, they only became crap (allegedly) again when we kept them - how covenient.

What we lack is that middle group of players who give you the depth though this year that is mainly down to injuries. The youngsters coming through are good so we may bridge that gap soon. Finally we have a rare breed in Demetriou, a captain who actually leads from the front which is invaluable.

So take no notice as you shouldn't be expected tp beat a fairly battle hardened SL team on their own turf. There really are some up themselves idiots on here

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumpe : Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:22 pm  

vastman wrote:

Don't fall into the trap mate, please. Wakefield actually have quite a few top quality players it just doesn't suit the elitists on here to admit it. Drew (obviously), Brough, Obst, Atkins, Latu and Rooney all proven gamebreakers and all chased at various times by "BIG" clubs, they only became crap (allegedly) again when we kept them - how covenient.

What we lack is that middle group of players who give you the depth though this year that is mainly down to injuries. The youngsters coming through are good so we may bridge that gap soon. Finally we have a rare breed in Demetriou, a captain who actually leads from the front which is invaluable.

Actually I had forgotten about the Scottish heritage scrum half Danny Brough. The guy is top draw, no question about it. Rooney however is a defensive liability, and inconsistent in attack. Atkins is hit or miss. Obst is just too tiny to be great. Latu is too violent and prone to penalties. Brough is the really consistent talent.

Thanks for the reminder about Brough. I have modified my original post to take account of your important comment about Danny Brough.

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumpe : Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:41 pm  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

Actually I had forgotten about the Scottish heritage scrum half Danny Brough. The guy is top draw, no question about it. Rooney however is a defensive liability, and inconsistent in attack. Atkins is hit or miss. Obst is just too tiny to be great. Latu is too violent and prone to penalties. Brough is the really consistent talent.

Thanks for the reminder about Brough. I have modified my original post to take account of your important comment about Danny Brough.

All making decent livings playing RL

Unlike yourself

If you are so clever why dont you get a job coaching

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumpe : Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:47 pm  

Starbug wrote:

All making decent livings playing RL

Unlike yourself

If you are so clever why dont you get a job coaching

I may well do. Since Warrington, and perhaps Wigan are going to be looking for a new coach before this season is out, and since Cullen and McCormack are regarded as damaged goods, there is a shortage of quality coaches on the market. I may well have a shot.

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumpe : Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:56 pm  

Alice's Phallus wrote:

I may well do. Since Warrington, and perhaps Wigan are going to be looking for a new coach before this season is out, and since Cullen and McCormack are regarded as damaged goods, there is a shortage of quality coaches on the market. I may well have a shot.

Considering you can also speak ' broken biscuits ' you should fit in well at Warrington

Re: Salford Disappointing. Are they in danger of being dumpe : Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:12 am  

Starbug wrote:

Considering you can also speak ' broken biscuits ' you should fit in well at Warrington

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:42 am  

RED LEAGUE wrote:

Also not forgetting we have the biggest football team in the world about half a mile away from us who are currently dominating at the moment, its always going to be hard to compete! And if you haven’t realised Salford have never had a competitive team in Super League so how do you expect us to build a big fan base when what they are watching is average? We wont get a decent sized crowd until we compete on the pitch and we cant compete on the pitch until we can spend the full cap and we cant do that until we get the crowds so really if anything the salary cap is doing nothing for teams like us its just a big vicious circle?

even in the halcyon days of the early 70's when the likes of watkins and hesketh played for you your crowds were still mickey poor...................