Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:47 pm  

Old Darlin wrote:

We plainly need to go back to the neutral refs policy of the 1980s/early 1990s.

Simple as that.

I can cop poor decisions but not this joke of a policy.

I actually agree with you OD,I must be getting old.

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:38 pm  

bryanthered wrote:

or we the English fans will not pay to watch the cheats from down under.

I'm more inclined to go down this path personally. I don't want to put a penny into the Australian game anymore. Feck 'em.

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:15 pm  

deluded pom? wrote:

I'm more inclined to go down this path personally. I don't want to put a penny into the Australian game anymore. Feck 'em.

whingers

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:13 am  

sanjunien wrote:

it was incompetance & bias imo - who makes the decisions on who will officiate games ? would McBanana have had any say in the matter beforehand ?
It wasn't even a question of 'interpretation' of rules by NH or SH refs - to me it was gross incompetance & dare I say,cheating...everything was set up for a Aus v NZ final
I honestly felt the game would have been refereed fairly but I was wrong - we were conned and were never going to win that game even making allowances for the english errors etc
I'm proud of the england team & coaching staff - they didn't let us down and deserved better

I did warn you several times but you said (rightly) it was unfair to pre-judge.

I'm not saying I told you so but............
"dear sanjunien.

You are missing a fairly important point or two in the the aussies will only accept their own match officials as being good enough which is utter crap.
The real reason is because they nor I have never seen an aussie ref giving his own team a "hard time".
Remeber when they changed the IRLB rules for australia to allow their own VR "observer"? WTF was thart about.

Things to look for are: 50/50 decisions where you can't argue individual decisions being unfair or biased - you have to look at the weight or quantity of these. Also penalty count is no guide; look for penalties given in useless positions and times e.g. when in possession early in the tackle count near a teams own line.
If you want to be gullable then fine".

Cheating aussies didn't have the confidence to beat us unaided.
Even the League Express made a big front page and editorial thing about this.
I hope and believe NZ will stuff them in the final.

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:33 pm  

saint at wire wrote:

I did warn you several times but you said (rightly) it was unfair to pre-judge.

I'm not saying I told you so but............
"dear sanjunien.

You are missing a fairly important point or two in the the aussies will only accept their own match officials as being good enough which is utter crap.
The real reason is because they nor I have never seen an aussie ref giving his own team a "hard time".
Remeber when they changed the IRLB rules for australia to allow their own VR "observer"? WTF was thart about.

Things to look for are: 50/50 decisions where you can't argue individual decisions being unfair or biased - you have to look at the weight or quantity of these. Also penalty count is no guide; look for penalties given in useless positions and times e.g. when in possession early in the tackle count near a teams own line.
If you want to be gullable then fine".

Cheating aussies didn't have the confidence to beat us unaided.
Even the League Express made a big front page and editorial thing about this.
I hope and believe NZ will stuff them in the final.

yes,you told me so and it sickens me to think the ref & VR would be THAT biased - I was totally naiive cos' I thought decency still exisits in the RL world - clearly it doesn't down under.
I promise to take seriously any of your future comments before pre-judging...
problem is,how de we change the situation so it doesn't continue ? - can't see the point of fans boycotting games- the dialogue has to be at the highest level to ensure complete neutrality amongst the officials - that can only come from pessure from the RFL ie 'we demand neutrality,or we don't play' end of...
sorry for doubting you - Come on you Saints !

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:04 pm  

Could an answer be to utilise the NRL's use of 2 ref's and have one from each country officiating?

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:19 pm  

We will always been seen as Bush League until we get neutral referee's.

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:16 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

yes,you told me so and it sickens me to think the ref & VR would be THAT biased - I was totally naiive cos' I thought decency still exisits in the RL world - clearly it doesn't down under.
I promise to take seriously any of your future comments before pre-judging...
problem is,how de we change the situation so it doesn't continue ? - can't see the point of fans boycotting games- the dialogue has to be at the highest level to ensure complete neutrality amongst the officials - that can only come from pessure from the RFL ie 'we demand neutrality,or we don't play' end of...
sorry for doubting you - Come on you Saints !

No probs sanjunien. The whole thing stank from the very start. The independant and the gaurdian have been on about it i.e. the international game lacks credibility because of these childish/arrogant tactics.
The only way it will stop is for the RFL refusing to participate until neutral refs and VF are appointed to every international game.

The thing that has really upset me is Sheens's complaint that the ref was letting us get away with holding down!
It's like robbing a house and complaining that the housholder didn't leave tea and biscuits out for them.

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:58 am  

Stupidly I thought there was some integrity to the game and that the referee would be impartial despite his origin.

I was wrong.

The lack of a neutral referee and the decisions that were made has made the international game a laughing stock, lacking in credibility.

Re: Now We Get an Aussie Ref : Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:13 am  

The Curtism wrote:

Stupidly I thought there was some integrity to the game and that the referee would be impartial despite his origin.

I was wrong.

The lack of a neutral referee and the decisions that were made has made the international game a laughing stock, lacking in credibility.

yes naiivly, I fell for that idea of impartiality too - the whole thing stinks and the RFL has to act to prevent the likes of it happening again - but will the RFL be big enough ?