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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:34 am  
The way its going its opening up for England to beat depleted squads....

:lol: :lol:

England has face bum teams from Australia before, was it 2003?

Still found a way to lose.
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:48 am  
all we've heard about the kiwis in the past few weeks,due to them getting into 3 club finals,is that they have "real depth now"....haha what a crock of crap


and the aussies could field a NSW cup team that would beat england and have dozens of world class centres...lol yeah right your gonna struggle to put out a side at this rate :lol:

and it's nice to see a aussie admit we LOST the 2003 series and you did'nt win it...
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:55 am  
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all we've heard about the kiwis in the past few weeks,due to them getting into 3 club finals,is that they have "real depth now"....haha what a crock of crap


and the aussies could field a NSW cup team that would beat england and have dozens of world class centres...lol yeah right your gonna struggle to put out a side at this rate :lol:

and it's nice to see a aussie admit we LOST the 2003 series and you did'nt win it...

Its both Spud.
It was GB's chance to win and they couldn't against players the quality of Richard Villasanti and Phil Bailey in the centres. :lol:
England will still come third even with a couple of Aussies and a Kiwi in the side.
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:04 am  
Matai and Vatuvei especially will be a loss to NZ.
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:24 am  
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Its both Spud.
It was GB's chance to win and they couldn't against players the quality of Richard Villasanti and Phil Bailey in the centres. :lol:
England will still come third even with a couple of Aussies and a Kiwi in the side.
:lol:

villasanti never played and phil bailey played 1 game hth


the rest of the aussie team was packed full of origin players, the aussie squad was never as bad as it's often portrayed
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:32 am  
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villasanti never played and phil bailey played 1 game hth


the rest of the aussie team was packed full of origin players, the aussie squad was never as bad as it's often portrayed

It was an average squad especially in the backs.
Lockyer
Hegarty
Wing
Bailey
Minichiello
Gower
Kimmorley

The fact that Villasanti was in the squad says it all.
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:58 am  
Lockyer - don't need to say anything about this chap
Hegarty - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Wing - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Bailey - was on the bench for all 3 origin games and played 1st test and scored...could do much more
Minichiello - played all 3 origin games for NSW and was golden boot winner 18months later
Gower - finished with 18 australia caps...hardly crap that is it
Kimmorley - crap players don't get 22caps for australia


so........who was actually missing? andrew john injured iirc...gordan tallis has just retired....looking at the pack the aussies put out in 2003...Webcke,buderus,civoniciva,mason,waterhouse,ricketson,fitzgibbon,robbie kearns,michael crocker etc....thats better than what the aussies are gonna put out next weekend lol


like i said the 2003 australia team was nowhere near as bad as its portrayed :lol:
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:17 am  
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I'd rather be an optimistic fool than a negative one.

Negative suits me just fine.
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:30 am  
roughyedspud wrote:
Lockyer - don't need to say anything about this chap
Hegarty - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Wing - played all 3 origin games for QLD that year
Bailey - was on the bench for all 3 origin games and played 1st test and scored...could do much more
Minichiello - played all 3 origin games for NSW and was golden boot winner 18months later
Gower - finished with 18 australia caps...hardly crap that is it
Kimmorley - crap players don't get 22caps for australia


so........who was actually missing? andrew john injured iirc...gordan tallis has just retired....looking at the pack the aussies put out in 2003...Webcke,buderus,civoniciva,mason,waterhouse,ricketson,fitzgibbon,robbie kearns,michael crocker etc....thats better than what the aussies are gonna put out next weekend lol


like i said the 2003 australia team was nowhere near as bad as its portrayed :lol:

Wing has never played for Queensland.
Maybe the Australian League was not so good in 2003?
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Re: Can england win the 4nations? : Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:52 am  
sorry my bad..its NSW not QLD....the fact still remains he played in all 3 origin games in 2003


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