Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:52 pm  

Bradford shouldn't be treat any differently than other clubs that have gone belly up - but they will.

The whole system is a joke, and until we get big changes at the top then it will continue to be a joke.

RFL -Fail again

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:27 pm  

It was no myth. What was done at Keighley regarding pre match entertainment, family marketing, community involvement, emphasis on encouraging kids coupled with a successful team on the field bringing huge increases in attendances and creating a positibe buzz for the club in the town was copied, line for line, word for word at Bradford by Deakin I think and became Bullmania.

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:37 pm  

keighley1 wrote:

It was no myth. What was done at Keighley regarding pre match entertainment, family marketing, community involvement, emphasis on encouraging kids coupled with a successful team on the field bringing huge increases in attendances and creating a positibe buzz for the club in the town was copied, line for line, word for word at Bradford by Deakin I think and became Bullmania.

Absolutely correct.

Mike Smith and Mick O'Neill were the architects and made Keighley the place to be pre-Super League. Bradford (pre-Bulls) copied it on a larger scale and took all the kudos while the Cougars were denied the promotion they had earned.

The irony was that a certain Bradford director (think hard now) saw a game at Cougar Park and declared it to be 'like a circus'.

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:23 pm  

Miscreant,
I don t want the Bulls to go belly up but, after the way that certain director, was instrumental in the backroom shenanigans which resulted in our promotion being denied, it s hard not to think that it s some kind of richly desrved cumuppance which is going on right now. After all, ultimately, it was that denial of promotion and the place in SL which ultimately led to the Cougars bankruptcy.

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:58 pm  

JB Down Under wrote:

Out of interest how did they lose 1.2million quid and over what period of time has this debt been building? I get the sense that maybe they couldn;t pay the rent on the ground and that is why the RFL stepped in to buy odsal so they weren;t kicked out and some clause invoked that allowed redevelopment of the ground?

Shame when you look at how they revolutionised the off the field game in early SL days. I guess nothing lasts forever?

Nowhere does it say the club lost £1.2m. Be careful of drawing false conclusions from selective bits of info released by the new board with an axe to grind with the old.

The Bulls paid only a peppercorn for Odsal. There was no unpaid rent. It was not that sort of lease, else how could the Bulls have sold it?

Still a big cash black hole to be explained though. Maybe we will gain some enlightenment tomorrow, when I gather Hood seeks to refute what the new lot have said in League Express?

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:01 pm  

keighley1 wrote:

Miscreant,
I don t want the Bulls to go belly up but, after the way that certain director, was instrumental in the backroom shenanigans which resulted in our promotion being denied, it s hard not to think that it s some kind of richly desrved cumuppance which is going on right now. After all, ultimately, it was that denial of promotion and the place in SL which ultimately led to the Cougars bankruptcy.

Caisley is not (yet) a director. And the majority of fans I talk to would prefer him not to be so again. Some hold similar views on him as you do.

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:12 pm  

TypingMonkey wrote:

I hope Bradford pull through this and I want them to stay in SL, but how they can justify taking donations to stay afloat and still not selling any players or renegotiating contracts I just can't understand.

Because the reason most of us put money in is so we didn't have to see our young stars leave. It would be one mighty way to pi$$ us all of if they sold Bateman and Elliott now.

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:14 pm  

SIMMSFAXTEDDY wrote:

Bradford shouldn't be treat any differently than other clubs that have gone belly up - but they will.

Yeah, they should chuck us out like they did with the smaller clubs like London, Wakey and Crusaders.

Oh, Wait...

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:29 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

Yeah, they should chuck us out like they did with the smaller clubs like London, Wakey and Crusaders.

Oh, Wait...

Point of order.....London set the trend...there were no rules in place and therefore, none were broken. In addition,the RFL never gave us a brass farthing and didn't buy our ground for us and we didn't beg for 500k by tugging heartstrings...other than that...good point well made

Re: are the bulls back with the begging bowl??? : Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:30 pm  

TBH, if anyone was surprised that Caisley's "independent review of the club" found that the financial state was "far worse than thought" then you'll be in for a terrible shock when I tell you that there's no Father Christmas either.

It's long been Caisley's plan to let the Bulls fail, then come charging back in and be hailed as a hero. The only reason it's taken so long is because of the previous board trying their best to sort out the mess he left the club in when he stepped down as chairman in 2006