: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:51 pm  

meast wrote:

all this bleating and whining about the ref's performance....................

how come no match reports i've read or reports from any media outlet has mentioned anythnig about what morgan is moaning about?

it could be coincidence that the only people who saw anything wrong with thaler was the hull kr coach and hull kr fans

Just like at Cardiff when he didn't see anything wrong as the result went in their favour.

I think Morgan may have actually said something along the lines of "what goes around comes around"

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:44 am  

thepriestman85 wrote:

How many times has a ref or Cummings admitted that a performance wasn’t to the level required? It’s as if they don’t care imo and are above the average fans who watch the game?

Well, off the top of my head I can think of the MM match where Leeds won the match from off-side.

Refs are not the same thing as players - a good analogy would be teachers and pupils. Teachers make mistakes but the biggest effect on the classroom is the mistakes that pupils make. At times it is best in the lesson for teachers to give a warning to pupils, not a sanction, despite the rules of the school calling on them to do so. It IS important that teachers admitt their mistakes from time to time, but most of the time they cannot afford to do so, as this erodes their authority and leads to excessive questioning of their decisions.

I think it would be very interesting to have a match write-up by the ref afterwards, explaining their decisions, it would be very educational for all us viewers. But this would not be for the purpose of auditing referee performance but for educating the viewers.

Justin Morgan : Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:40 am  

I have been watching rugby league for over 50 years both Hull teams and in australia I am not a rovers supporter but a rugby league supporter but I can honestly say that sundays performance from Mr Thaler was the worst refereeing performance I have ever seen. Not only him but his 2 assistants or lines men in old money where abismal. When is the rugby football league going to accept that some of our officials are down right useless. Forward passes are the main bone of contention with me every team in the league do it and get away with it. I can't believe that the league dont know it is happenning it is killing the game I can understand why Justin Morgan went off things that are happenning now are costing coaches there jobs. It is ok saying you must respect referees and officials but surely they must earn the respect if no one criticises them they must think they can walk on water all I can say is GET A GRIP Mr Lewis before the game collapses around you.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:49 am  

Oh Dear
Please lock it or merge it before it turns into another "boo hoo....do you not know who we are....we are the famous HKR" thread.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:50 am  

I too think the Refereeing standards have gone down - BUT without them there will be no game !
we've all been guilty of laying into a ref over the years but what if everytime a ref copped abuse on the scale that Mr Thaler did from Morgan on Monday he decided to quit the game ?
We would find ourselves in a situation where no one would want to take up the whistle anymore, therefore no more games.

i personally wouldnt want to do it so i do applaud these guys for having the nerve and bottle to go out there every week, knowing that he's gonna get abuse hurled at him for everything he doesnt get right.
Would you want to go to work knowing that you were going to get called every name under the sun and have people calling you names because you didnt do your job 100% correctly every day ?

Every coach after every game can probably find something wrong in the Ref's performance but Justin Morgan went too far - it was more or less a personal attack on him rather than his work and we dont need that in our game.
Until enough people say "yeah am gonna be a Ref" we are stuck with them, and so be it if this great game is to continue in the future.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:51 am  

Re: Justin Morgan : Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:51 am  

easthull4 wrote:

I am not a rovers supporter

With a name like East Hull? Yea Right!

Re: Justin Morgan : Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:18 pm  

BenG wrote:

With a name like East Hull? Yea Right!

If he lives in East Hull he isn't going to call himself West Hull is he

You can live in East Hull and support either side its a big city not just a small town in Wigan

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:48 pm  

How about this - Thaler didn't do his job properly and is held accountable. In this logic then Morgan has not done his job properly and is in breach of a number of rules governing his behaviour and should also be held accountable...

I would suggest a sideline ban from any match where Thaler officiates.

: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:58 pm  

Mick Gledhill wrote:

Why not let the fans officiate the games ???

I would love to ref a Bulls v Leeds match

I think a few on here would like to see that
big dummy spit from morgan....small fine and he won't ref at caravan park again this year......job done as far as morgan is concerned