: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:41 pm  

Wellsy13 wrote:

Well said.

What is it that Wigan actually did to get more in? I know it was something to do with Heinz, but what exactly?

Heinz bought a load of seats in the north stand and gave them to employees IIRC

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:47 pm  

I must admit to being disappointed with Huddersfield's averages this year, and I'm sure Ken Davy is.

Their average season to date is around 300 higher than 2008's average, and this despite the revolutionary season ticket offer.

Some of their crowds this year have been lower than the corresponding fictures last year, and this despite the fact that they are now 3rd in the league.

What more is there for the Hudds club to do? They have cheap season tickets, free admission for kids under 16, and not a bad team on the field.

Seems a bit disappointing to me, and I'm sure the club were hoping for much much better.

: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:52 pm  

Dave T wrote:

I must admit to being disappointed with Huddersfield's averages this year, and I'm sure Ken Davy is.

Their average season to date is around 300 higher than 2008's average, and this despite the revolutionary season ticket offer.

Some of their crowds this year have been lower than the corresponding fictures last year, and this despite the fact that they are now 3rd in the league.

What more is there for the Hudds club to do? They have cheap season tickets, free admission for kids under 16, and not a bad team on the field.

Seems a bit disappointing to me, and I'm sure the club were hoping for much much better.

Guess it comes dow to profile in the town and making the game day experience one that the whole family wants to be at and that the kids insist on going along to.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:13 am  

Wire_Yed_79 wrote:

courtesy of Bilko (wigan admin)

Super League Regular Season Home Attendance Table
This was before tonights matches btw.

1 Leeds 15394 Down 9.7%
2 Wigan 13914 Down 4.1%
3 Hull FC 13702 Up 2%
4 St Helens 11663 Up 10.3%
5 Bradford 10429 Up 1.3%
6 Catalans* 9529 Up 13.8%
7 Warrington 8859 Down 6.8%
8 Hull KR 8394 Down 1.9%
9 Huddersfield 8176 Up 4.2%
10 Castleford 7470 Down 0.2%
11 Wakefield 5504 Down 21%
12 Salford 4704 Up 16.8%
13 Celtic 3869 Up 78%
14 Harlequins 3373 Down 10.7%

*At Stade Gilbert Brutus only the average is 8,298

We've got the following at home, all decent draws with travelling fans so i would expect us to better our avg by season end
v Bulls 8,900
v FC 10,100
v St's 8,900
v Wolves 8,500

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:24 am  

Wellsy13 wrote:

You're argument for Hull having bigger crowds than Warrington (you brought it up, not anyone else) was:

1. We merged with Gateshead to get bigger crowds.

and then after realising how stupid an argument that was:

2. There's nothing else in Hull

So, now that we have established there is more in Hull than there is in Warrington, what else have you got?

Oooh I love it when people try and patronise me and then make themselves look stupid all on their own! Second one today after roversmad. Maybe you should do the same as he did and quit whilst you've made a big enough fool of yourself!

It is difficult in this part of the country though. The north west is simply soccer crazy. Liverpool, Everton, Man United, Man City take your pick - Those 4 clubs average attendances come up nearly 200,000 plus the thousands if not millions of people who are happy to call themselves football fans just because they buy a shirt and watch their team on the box.

I would say football fans outnumber rugby fans in Widnes by bout 10:1 if you go on the number of football shirts you see compared to rugby ones. Some of that has to do with Widnes not being in SL but there's no doubt 4 massive football clubs in the area has a negative affect on attendances and its probably the same for Warrington too. Sure, some kids are happy to watch both football and rugby, but I know from when I was growing up that there is a 'one or the other' mentality. Unless you are a real top side like Saints, it is very hard to attract big numbers.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:32 am  

Concerning that our crowds are down by 20% - genuinely at a loss to explain it.

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:07 am  

Yeh with the season Wakey are having I would have thought they would be up not down. Mindst you the same can be argued for us and Hudds! No understanding Rl fans sometimes!

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:54 am  

Red-4-life wrote:

Funny how you'll say its nearly as many as us but you won't say it about Celtic

But look at the figures that Bilko has provided. Compared to your attendances last season Celtic are up 78% and your only up 16.8% - surely you must be concerned as to why being in SL isn't drawing in much bigger crowds?

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:37 am  

With Huddersfield, I suspect their might be a suggestion that home fans numbers have risen, but the numbers seen from visiting fans have actually dropped in some cases

[Durham Giant]

: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:19 am  

vikings 4 ever wrote:

It is difficult in this part of the country though. The north west is simply soccer crazy. Liverpool, Everton, Man United, Man City take your pick - Those 4 clubs average attendances come up nearly 200,000 plus the thousands if not millions of people who are happy to call themselves football fans just because they buy a shirt and watch their team on the box.

I would say football fans outnumber rugby fans in Widnes by bout 10:1 if you go on the number of football shirts you see compared to rugby ones. Some of that has to do with Widnes not being in SL but there's no doubt 4 massive football clubs in the area has a negative affect on attendances and its probably the same for Warrington too. Sure, some kids are happy to watch both football and rugby, but I know from when I was growing up that there is a 'one or the other' mentality. Unless you are a real top side like Saints, it is very hard to attract big numbers.

RUBBISH

football has nothing to do with it. If those 4 teams were playing at home that would still only be 220,000 people out of how many.

Rl is a better game and soccer cannot compete on price, What is your pricing policy like, what are you doing to get kids and familkies in. At Huddersfield i paid 3125 for a season ticket for me and the 3 kids. that is the way you compete with soccer. Get the punters in and keep them.