Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:12 pm  

vastman wrote:

Would that be the same Lam who moved to Australia as a 7 year old?

So other than his DNA in what way is he a product of PNG RL? You'll be suggesting Danny Brought is Scottish next.

Where in my quote did I say he was a product of PNG RL? Jean was on about PNG players who have been a good servants to rugby league. I mentioned Lam as he is a born and bread Papua New Guinean. Not sure what kind of reference to Danny Brough you are trying to make as he was born in Dewsbury. Lam IS PNG, Brough ISN'T Scottish.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:14 pm  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

Where in my quote did I say he was a product of PNG RL? Jean was on about PNG players who have been a good servants to rugby league. I mentioned Lam as he is a born and bread Papua New Guinean. Not sure what kind of reference to Danny Brough you are trying to make as he was born in Dewsbury. Lam IS PNG, Brough ISN'T Scottish.

How can he be born and bread PNG if he left aged seven!

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:27 pm  

vastman wrote:

How can he be born and bread PNG if he left aged seven!

Fantastic. Ignore the rest of the post. Of course he can. Early exposure to the game and the culture of PNG has obviously helped mould him into the young lad he was when he went. Yes he left PNG at 7, but think, how much of that was playing RL with his friends, sharing the passion of the country for the game, and potentially even playing a season or more in the juniors (I have my first exposure to RL as a baby, first shirt as a baby and first game at 6 years old when I became eligible for the Under 7's).

He himself stated in The Independant in 1995 - "The biggest difference is Lam himself. His family might have left PNG for Brisbane when he was seven, but he has always regarded himself as a Papua New Guinean, That attachment to his roots was tested earlier this year when an outstanding series at scrum-half for Queensland in the State of Origin matches gave him a real chance of selection for Australia. Lam turned his back on that prospect. I just couldn't let the people in PNG down, he said".

He's a PNG lad who is in the category of the likes of Stanley Gene who have already made a fantastic contribution to the UK game. Let's hope Mead and the Albert brothers do the same this season too.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:46 pm  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

Fantastic. Ignore the rest of the post. Of course he can. Early exposure to the game and the culture of PNG has obviously helped mould him into the young lad he was when he went. Yes he left PNG at 7, but think, how much of that was playing RL with his friends, sharing the passion of the country for the game, and potentially even playing a season or more in the juniors (I have my first exposure to RL as a baby, first shirt as a baby and first game at 6 years old when I became eligible for the Under 7's).

He himself stated in The Independant in 1995 - "The biggest difference is Lam himself. His family might have left PNG for Brisbane when he was seven, but he has always regarded himself as a Papua New Guinean, That attachment to his roots was tested earlier this year when an outstanding series at scrum-half for Queensland in the State of Origin matches gave him a real chance of selection for Australia. Lam turned his back on that prospect. I just couldn't let the people in PNG down, he said".

He's a PNG lad who is in the category of the likes of Stanley Gene who have already made a fantastic contribution to the UK game. Let's hope Mead and the Albert brothers do the same this season too.

I don't give a stuff how ethnically and culturally attached to PNG he is, that's his business.

You may have a point with Gene, but Lam!

The point you are missing on a monumental level is that his RL heritage is almost 100% Australian, the PNG element is tiny unless you're seriously suggesting the one year he may have spent playing park rugby as a six year old kid was in any way significant in which case you're bonkers. He IS A PRODUCT OF THE AUSTRALIAN SCHOOLS/CLUB SYSTEM end of.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:23 pm  

vastman wrote:

I don't give a stuff how ethnically and culturally attached to PNG he is, that's his business.

You may have a point with Gene, but Lam!

The point you are missing on a monumental level is that his RL heritage is almost 100% Australian, the PNG element is tiny unless you're seriously suggesting the one year he may have spent playing park rugby as a six year old kid was in any way significant in which case you're bonkers. He IS A PRODUCT OF THE AUSTRALIAN SCHOOLS/CLUB SYSTEM end of.

You don't give a stuff. Fair enough. But I'm saying if he feels that way then maybe the PNG culture and influence in his early life encouraged him to take up RL. I never said anywhere he was A PRODUCT of the PNG system.

His heritage is PNG. Born in PNG. He is a Papua New Guinean. Even if he played his rugby in Australia he is a PNG national. Unlike say Luke Page who is born is Australia and plays for PNG.

Jean put this "As for the past PNG contributors to Super League we have not only Paul Aiton, but also the tyro Stanley Gene, Makali Aizue and the champion winger Marcus Bai".

It doesn't say products of the PNG system who contributed to SL does it? It simply says PNG contributors. Is Lam a Papua New Guinean? Without a doubt he is. Did he contribute to Super League? Yes. He was one of the best halves in the British game at the time. So please stop picking arguments that aren't there and just accept that my point still stands. Lam is a Papua New Guinean and has contributed to SL.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:35 pm  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

You don't give a stuff. Fair enough. But I'm saying if he feels that way then maybe the PNG culture and influence in his early life encouraged him to take up RL. I never said anywhere he was A PRODUCT of the PNG system.

His heritage is PNG. Born in PNG. He is a Papua New Guinean. Even if he played his rugby in Australia he is a PNG national. Unlike say Luke Page who is born is Australia and plays for PNG.

Jean put this "As for the past PNG contributors to Super League we have not only Paul Aiton, but also the tyro Stanley Gene, Makali Aizue and the champion winger Marcus Bai".

It doesn't say products of the PNG system who contributed to SL does it? It simply says PNG contributors. Is Lam a Papua New Guinean? Without a doubt he is. Did he contribute to Super League? Yes. He was one of the best halves in the British game at the time. So please stop picking arguments that aren't there and just accept that my point still stands. Lam is a Papua New Guinean and has contributed to SL.

You are obviously correct but Donald "vastman" Trump cannot admit that he is wrong.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:48 am  

vastman wrote:

How can he be born and bread PNG if he left aged seven!

Did you mean "bread and butter PNG?"

Or did you mean "bred PNG?"

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Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:04 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Did you mean "bread and butter PNG?"

Or did you mean "bred PNG?"

He was quoting someone else. Do keep up.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:46 pm  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Did you mean "bread and butter PNG?"

Or did you mean "bred PNG?"

To be fair he was quoting me there. Simple spelling mistake. We all do it. But the fact he had to highlight it instead of accepting that I was right shows his mentality and mental capacity for good conversation.

Re: 2018 Super League Ins & Outs : Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:30 pm  

Bulls Boy 2011 wrote:

To be fair he was quoting me there. Simple spelling mistake. We all do it. But the fact he had to highlight it instead of accepting that I was right shows his mentality and mental capacity for good conversation.

Actually I never even noticed it and frankly I don't care, I'' leave that nonsense to the fake Frenchman - that certainly wasn't the reason I highlighted - As for my mental capacity, fair enough how dare I have an opinion that differs from yours.