: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:45 pm  

The Clan wrote:

And Simon Finnigan was produced in Birkby was he?

I very much doubt it

Re: RFL and Wakey signing : Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:46 pm  

vastman wrote:

That's rich coming from the likes of you.

That's rich coming from the likes of you.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:49 pm  

vastman wrote:

So why have Leeds got Australian players then fool. Or are you saying it's alright for Leeds to sign the ones they can afford but Wakefield can't. We have a quota spot free we can sign who we want.

and again, you keep up your streak for grabbing the wrong end of the stick with impressive gusto

Leeds shouldnt sign players who dont add to the league, i have consistantly said we shouldnt be keeping players like Lueluai and Donald because as good a player as they are, they arent vastly better than the youngsters we can find and put in

as for players like Webb, Lauitiiti, Eastwood and Buderus, these are world class players whose presence is of benefit to the league and young british players

and Wakefield would be able to afford a better quality of import if they didnt need 10 of them

Re: RFL and Wakey signing : Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:50 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

why not go to RU or the championship?

I would imagine any capable Championship player would be under contract and would involve a transfer fee. Has for RU, what English RU player of any decent ability could we afford? Even of we could it wouldn't be practical, he would need a large amount of game time to get up to SL standard, time we just don't have.

We are in a desperate situation and this is our only course of action. The fact this signing wasn't made in the off season tells a story itself.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:51 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

:lol: with your lack of knowledge of RL, it doesnt surprise me one bit, though i think this is more an attempt at a cheap shot at leeds, you still a bit upset about getting spanked off the leeds board earlier this week? let it go, its nothing, making ridiculous statements in anger just makes you look even more silly


see above



all this is lovely, but largely irrellevant to the FACT that Wakefield have gone out and signed a fringe NRL player who cannot be described as anything but a 'punt', this player now takes them up to 10 Overseas players for this season outof a 25 man squad, the NRL has provided more players for wakefield than wakefield have

your argument regard wakefield not being able to afford to scout the UK and bring through players like Leeds do, rings very hollow when they can afford to scout Australia and bring over fringe youngsters to give them a shot, why not go get a british youngster and give them a shot?

During the SL era Wakefield have produced a lot of home grown players who have pied their trade in the Sl and one who plays in the NRL.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:54 pm  

bramleyrhino wrote:

No.

A Kolpak player still requires a work permit to enter the UK but once they have that, they have to be given the same employment rights as a EU citizen.

Cheers, I stand corrected.

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:56 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

and again, you keep up your streak for grabbing the wrong end of the stick with impressive gusto

Leeds shouldnt sign players who dont add to the league, i have consistantly said we shouldnt be keeping players like Lueluai and Donald because as good a player as they are, they arent vastly better than the youngsters we can find and put in

as for players like Webb, Lauitiiti, Eastwood and Buderus, these are world class players whose presence is of benefit to the league and young british players

and Wakefield would be able to afford a better quality of import if they didnt need 10 of them

No they wouldn't! imports or home grown, they still need paying....arguably the reason we can afford the 'top' imports is because we HAVE some unknown imports on less money than there English counterparts would be!!

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:59 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

As I have previously said, the club have in the past looked to the lower tiers for talent, perhaps this time the calibre of player John Kear has picked up from here in the past might not have been there or available this time.

thats the price clubs need to pay for not having the requisite talent in the academy structure,

whilstever importing average import squad fillers are allowed, youth development will be secondary

Wakefield have promoted the youth players ready for first team action from the academy into the 25 man squad, the fact that they have not promoted anymore suggests that they are not ready for SL or are not good enough. The better youngsters are often ‘poached’ from the Wakefield Scholarship scheme by neighbouring clubs who offer the academy players more money when it come to signing professional terms.

then wakefield need to offer more to keep them! we live in a competitive world, Wakefield need to compete.

And the fact they arent ready or good enough is a failing of wakefields youth systems

Regarding a French player, maybe the type of player Trinity wanted and for the money available wasn’t there. It’s far too easy to sit in an ivory tower taking shots at clubs without knowing the full facts of a situation.

Adel Fellous wouldnt have been massively expensive and he has done a job for Hull and Les Catalans or Borlin, why not try and pick up a youngster on loan from an SL club, someone like Ambler? or a young player from the championship Michael Haley who is playing championship rugby this year having played for the rhinos last year

Make no mistake I am not exactly pleased with this signing but I understand the reasons as to why it has happened.

i understand the reasons, its easier, and thats the problem, and its also the reason many clubs are still failing to develop enough youngsters

Re: RFL and Wakey signing : Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:00 pm  

deeHell wrote:

I would imagine any capable Championship player would be under contract and would involve a transfer fee. Has for RU, what English RU player of any decent ability could we afford? Even of we could it wouldn't be practical, he would need a large amount of game time to get up to SL standard, time we just don't have.

We are in a desperate situation and this is our only course of action. The fact this signing wasn't made in the off season tells a story itself.

thats the price you pay for not having the requisite talent in the academy,

until you pay that price, there is no need to put the time and effort into the academy and we are left where we are now

: Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:01 pm  

The Clan wrote:

During the SL era Wakefield have produced a lot of home grown players who have pied their trade in the Sl and one who plays in the NRL.

what would you class as a lot? 30? 40? 50?