Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:32 am  

Mrs Barista wrote:

You could have said/ probably did say the same when announcing signings of Kirk Netherton, Chas I'Anson, Ryan Esders, Frankie Mariano, Scott Spaven, Lee Gomersall, James Haynes etc. Clubs have to have a certain number of homegrown players on the books under the franchise rules. Cheerleading Rovers meeting these minimum requirements as a sign of a brave new world of Rovers' squad being built around a nucleus of homegrown players is getting a bit giddy in this context.

Damned if they do....damned if they don't, it would appear.

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:40 am  

The Hurricane wrote:

Galea
Webster
Newton
Dobson
Green
Vella
Mason

Thats 7 overseas players who definately shouldent be off quota. The rule for next year is 5.

Hang on. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the reason HKR have these extra number is because some of these players were at HKR before the new quota laws were introduced, right? Meaning when the likes of vella (32) and galea (32) inevitably retire (or move on) they will not free up a quota spot, thus meaning that numbers are definatley reduced long term?

Could someone clarify whether that's right?

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:35 am  

Correct.

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:58 am  

Bobbin' Along wrote:

Correct.

So, what's the fuss? The number of imports are being reduced. The only party that will really suffer is HKR themselves as they may struggle ot replace them when they leave.

[Mild Rover]

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:59 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Hang on. Please correct me if I'm wrong but the reason HKR have these extra number is because some of these players were at HKR before the new quota laws were introduced, right? Meaning when the likes of vella (32) and galea (32) inevitably retire (or move on) they will not free up a quota spot, thus meaning that numbers are definatley reduced long term?

Could someone clarify whether that's right?

Indeed - and because we have fewer senior club-trained players, we include more youngsters (not claiming it as virtue, we have to) than most clubs in the 25 man squad. The squeeze comes in the middle where we have chosen to keep mature overseas fed-qualified players rather than mature Brits - such as Galea, Vella and Newton, rather than Chev Walker, David Mills and Paul Cooke.
The way the rules have panned out has given Rovers wider opportunities in a constricting market. All clubs stock up to the max on quota players, more or less - as soon as Berrigan got off quota Hull fans were looking for their club to fill it. You play the cards you are dealt and for once Rovers got a decent hand.

Offside Monkey wrote:

So, what's the fuss? The number of imports are being reduced. The only party that will really suffer is HKR themselves as they may struggle ot replace them when they leave.

But why is it more of struggle to replace them than retiring British players of similar quality?

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:23 pm  

Wadski wrote:

Andy's dad is not called Paul either.

Yes he is

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:38 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

So, what's the fuss? The number of imports are being reduced. The only party that will really suffer is HKR themselves as they may struggle ot replace them when they leave.

Jesus H effing Christ...Someone has seen the light!

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:58 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

But why is it more of struggle to replace them than retiring British players of similar quality?

Well, HKR's detractors suggest that there is little development of youngsters, which gives you a head start in recruitment. I think someone posted evidence to the contrary, though, in terms of young players being signed up.

You can't just force club to sack a load of people becuase they're foreign. What we have is a longer term plan to phase the number of foreigners down, HKR will have to get into line, no matter how they push the boundaries, if it means they've two aussies more than another club for a couple of seasons, I'm not really arsed.
I don't know why so many people are having a cow about it.

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:41 pm  

The Hurricane wrote:

I wont explain my point. You're obviously too club biased to understand.

The Hurricane wrote:

Pathetic club.

Well, there goes another irony meter.

[Mild Rover]

Re: HKR sign Green : Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:04 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Well, HKR's detractors suggest that there is little development of youngsters, which gives you a head start in recruitment. I think someone posted evidence to the contrary, though, in terms of young players being signed up.

You can't just force club to sack a load of people becuase they're foreign. What we have is a longer term plan to phase the number of foreigners down, HKR will have to get into line, no matter how they push the boundaries, if it means they've two aussies more than another club for a couple of seasons, I'm not really arsed.
I don't know why so many people are having a cow about it.

I know why some of them are.
But you're right, we have to develop more club-trained players to give the squad greater depth as well as to continue meeting SL rules.
Liam Watts looks a very good prospect and the kids that Rovers signed after securing their long-term place in SL are now coming of age.