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Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:42 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Where, are, The RFL Bradford's main creditor?

I wouldn't say so. They were one of the creditors for sure but not a significant one. In any case if they were a major creditor it brings with it a huge conflict of interest. Would they act as a creditor and install whichever owner was willing to pay the highest pence in the pound on the debt, or would they act as the governing body and install whichever new owner had the means to bring the club into a sustainable footing. I've demonstrated that they've actively ignored bids underpinned with meaningful wealth that seemingly would have offered the best long term outcomes for the club. I find it inexplicable.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:44 pm  

Donnyman wrote:

I don't get why they are still offering themselves.

Recalling when they had Mark Campbell organising the ground and the club structures superbly, then setting up Nahaboo to fund it all, they were on the brink of getting to SL. Then Nahaboo pulled out and they have been on a shoestring budget since????.

They are offering themselves up because of it was fair they should be chosen, and even if they lose every game 100 nil, they will make double the money that they would earn in Championship. hey would fill POR every home game.

It would be fair of them to be offered the spot. But of course they will not be chosen by the SL Chairmen. (why no women?), as this is all about protecting the top clubs business model, then the game at the top and then the RFL and then the wider pyramid.

The Bulls will go up. It is the obvious result. IF yo are not a SL Chairman or Elstone why would you chose a village team that will bring 500 people?

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:57 pm  

JTCFJG wrote:

The Bulls will go up.

I do get the impression from your many posts where you constantly repeat this mantra, that it's more borne out of a desperate hope for it to happen, rather than it being based on any solid plan.

Nobody outside of Bradford wants the 'Bulls' back in that decrepit old bowl and from what I read on here, you don't seem to have some sugar daddy ready to make you a viable option.

Going back to Odsal would just be an admission that the game in the UK is a dead fish.. Personally, I'd say Leigh are a far more realistic option.. great stadium and an ambitious and long serving owner, who actually supports the club. Also, would balance out the east/west of the Pennines split - Does the league really need another cash strapped Yorkshire club?

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Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:13 pm  

There is no plausible way of Bradford being in super league within the next few years. The idea of being gifted a slot seems bonkers, and frankly we've been the subject of quite enough ill-will without further p1ssing everyone off.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:43 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

I do get the impression from your many posts where you constantly repeat this mantra, that it's more borne out of a desperate hope for it to happen, rather than it being based on any solid plan.

Nobody outside of Bradford wants the 'Bulls' back in that decrepit old bowl and from what I read on here, you don't seem to have some sugar daddy ready to make you a viable option.

Going back to Odsal would just be an admission that the game in the UK is a dead fish.. Personally, I'd say Leigh are a far more realistic option.. great stadium and an ambitious and long serving owner, who actually supports the club. Also, would balance out the east/west of the Pennines split - Does the league really need another cash strapped Yorkshire club?

Can you count my many posts please? Has someone hacked my account on this tread?

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:20 pm  

JTCFJG wrote:

Can you count my many posts please? Has someone hacked my account on this tread?

There are a number of threads in which you have participated, in which you push the idea that Bradford at Odsal is some sort of viable option for the future of SL - I sense it's more desperation on your part, as I've yet to hear any argument that makes it a good idea.

On a list of the possibilities I've read about on here (Featherstone, Widnes, Leigh, Newcastle, Toulouse, etc), I'd suggest Bradford, especially at Odsal, are towards the bottom of the pile.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:17 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

I wouldn't say so. They were one of the creditors for sure but not a significant one. In any case if they were a major creditor it brings with it a huge conflict of interest. Would they act as a creditor and install whichever owner was willing to pay the highest pence in the pound on the debt, or would they act as the governing body and install whichever new owner had the means to bring the club into a sustainable footing. I've demonstrated that they've actively ignored bids underpinned with meaningful wealth that seemingly would have offered the best long term outcomes for the club. I find it inexplicable.

That was what I was getting at, surely the Administrators are expected to sell for as much as possible, if the RFL vetoed it then they also cost local business and other creditors money?

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:20 pm  

Pumpetypump wrote:

There is no plausible way of Bradford being in super league within the next few years. The idea of being gifted a slot seems bonkers, and frankly we've been the subject of quite enough ill-will without further p1ssing everyone off.

Well said sir.
It should be the same for any and every club that is striving to get there.
With P/R in place, a SL spot has to be gained on the field of play.
Of course, with the Championship season having been effectively cancelled, things are in limbo, which means that there can only be 2 options.
Either, reinstate the relegated club or, promote the next highest ranked club from the previous season.
Heads it's Fev / tails it's London.
If neither of these options is workable, then go for aggregate points form the last few seasons but, with London having been in SL for one season, where do you go with that.

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:32 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Well said sir.
It should be the same for any and every club that is striving to get there.
With P/R in place, a SL spot has to be gained on the field of play.
Of course, with the Championship season having been effectively cancelled, things are in limbo, which means that there can only be 2 options.
Either, reinstate the relegated club or, promote the next highest ranked club from the previous season.
Heads it's Fev / tails it's London.
If neither of these options is workable, then go for aggregate points form the last few seasons but, with London having been in SL for one season, where do you go with that.

nobody has been relegated...

Re: Twelfth SL club for 2021 : Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:21 pm  

11 teams makes magic weekend problematic. If they are going to promote a team then the sooner the better they announce it so that the club can recruit. As London found out it’s difficult to go up and survive when all the other clubs have recruited.