Re: Crowds : Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:25 am  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

Lmao that’s just an embarassing post. It’s like the worst possible attempt at trolling ever.

Dont be daft I was having a joke with Saddened.
You pulling up anyone re trolling now that is funny

[Wanderer]

Re: Crowds : Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:28 am  

Same as the other thread ... Debate is fine but stop any name calling or personal insults or this ends up locked.

Re: Crowds : Wed Mar 29, 2023 8:08 am  

Wanderer wrote:

Same as the other thread ... Debate is fine but stop any name calling or personal insults or this ends up locked.

As on the other thread I will stop the name calling etc but as stated can you put a block on the insults from a certain poster.

Re: Crowds : Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:34 am  

Leeds_Luke wrote:

If you think your home attendances are the biggest in the league, you are wrong.

If you are saying you have the biggest away following, it will dwindle once you start losing games and are not picking up silverware. The 'glory supporters' will disappear into the woodwork again. Ask any club that has had a run of successful seasons.

It's also worth pointing out that St Helens is a one sport/one team town. With nothing much else to do there.

The support is admirable in size, but everything is stacked in favour of big support.

If you're talking % of home support travelling to away games then I imagine Salford wipe the floor with the so-called "big boys".

There's been some pitiful Wigan/Leeds/Saints followings at the AJ Bell over the past couple of seasons. Location/traffic/parking excuses don't cut it I'm afraid.

Re: Crowds : Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:15 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Away support obviously. Of course it'll dwindle when we're unsuccessful. Show me a club that doesn't apply to.

Which is exactly what I said.

But the other clubs are currently in that 'unsuccesful' bracket, whilst Saints have had several years of building up a following of fair weather supporters and glory hunters.

SaleSlim wrote:

If you're talking % of home support travelling to away games then I imagine Salford wipe the floor with the so-called "big boys".

There's been some pitiful Wigan/Leeds/Saints followings at the AJ Bell over the past couple of seasons. Location/traffic/parking excuses don't cut it I'm afraid.

You see pitiful away followings at all grounds, it's not just Salford.

It's hard to measure away support as there is a lack of factual figures, apart from the records Catalans release, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. But if you do use those figures (as a percentage of average home attendances), last year Wigan took 0.9% (110/12,278), Leeds took 3.1% (398/12,940), Saints took 5.6% (664/11,851), and Salford took 3.9% (177/4,529).

Bearing in mind that it is an unusual fixture, and attendances are higher in the middle of summer than the start of the season (when Wigan visited), but Salford are hardly 'wiping the floor' with record attendances.

The one thing that doesn't help Salford's tradition of lowest attendance figures is the location. Not many other clubs have to compete with a top flight football club for spectators, nor the sheer amount of other entertainment options available.

Re: Crowds : Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:23 pm  

Leeds_Luke wrote:

Bearing in mind that it is an unusual fixture, and attendances are higher in the middle of summer than the start of the season (when Wigan visited), but Salford are hardly 'wiping the floor' with record attendances.

Also a double for us with Toulouse the week before so most people went there instead.

Re: Crowds : Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:42 pm  

With 2.7million people in Manchester you are barely scratching a few percentage points when it comes to the number of people who turn up to a football game. Plenty of other people to target and get through the turnstiles.

The issue is not other sport, sports fans will watch lots of sports, the challenge is getting people off sofas, from central heated houses, with hi def wide screen TVs. To go to a cold, windy game, where you are some distance from the action.

Great news that attendances are growing, fingers crossed the clubs build on it.

Re: Crowds : Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:40 am  

Leeds_Luke wrote:

Which is exactly what I said.

But the other clubs are currently in that 'unsuccesful' bracket, whilst Saints have had several years of building up a following of fair weather supporters and glory hunters.

You see pitiful away followings at all grounds, it's not just Salford.

It's hard to measure away support as there is a lack of factual figures, apart from the records Catalans release, which is a different kettle of fish altogether. But if you do use those figures (as a percentage of average home attendances), last year Wigan took 0.9% (110/12,278), Leeds took 3.1% (398/12,940), Saints took 5.6% (664/11,851), and Salford took 3.9% (177/4,529).

Bearing in mind that it is an unusual fixture, and attendances are higher in the middle of summer than the start of the season (when Wigan visited), but Salford are hardly 'wiping the floor' with record attendances.

The one thing that doesn't help Salford's tradition of lowest attendance figures is the location. Not many other clubs have to compete with a top flight football club for spectators, nor the sheer amount of other entertainment options available.

All north west teams have to compete with top flight football clubs, in my street alone there are only 25 houses, we have 3 households that are season ticket holders or regular attendants at City, 1 Man U, and 1 use to go to Liverpool, Not exactly top flight but I also regularly attend Salford City.
The good thing is there are 6 households who also attend Leigh games.

Re: Crowds : Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:26 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Strange thing to post. Leigh haven't had a crowd above any of ours yet, Warrington have had one. Neither have a higher average than we do and no club in SL takes the numbers we do.

"Strange thing to post"!! Yet you posting "or Leigh will become top dogs" is perfectly normal. Despite their SL record being considerably less than half of Wigan's and that came when they were playing Saints....oh no, sorry it was Wigan...

That's almost worse than you constantly posting that Field doesn't like to tackle despite him pulling of some of the best try savers in recent SL memory. It's almost as if you believe the "anything as long as it's anti-Wigan" BS you write.

For the record, the biggest coward of a fullback SL has ever seen wore a Saints shirt and his name was Ben Barba.

Re: Crowds : Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:37 am  

TimmySmith wrote:

Out of interest, how much were tickets on match day?

The Humberside club were selling season passes for £1.
They also include the SMC ( Stadium management company) tickets in their announced attendance.
So that’s 2500 added onto the “ official attendance”.