Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:44 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

I'd say it was as much to do with the top fighters seemingly unwilling to fight each other than it is politics. Kovalev-Stevenson is a prime example of a fight that should be easy to make, but the 2 camps are dragging their heels. It's infuriating from a fans POV. Especially when you consider a fight like Ray Leonard-Tommy Hearts was made in 5 minutes at the airport. Although Leonard did avoid Marvin Hagler for years so it's nothing new.

The top fighters and more importantly their managers, use the different belts to help increase the purse.
Also, if they can hang on to one or two belts, they can still claim to be world champion.
Of course, when there is a unification bout, they either need to be confident of winning or get a heap of cash (or both).

Although it may be better for the fans to watch a bout where everything is on the line, the promoters are happy for the titles to be spread about so they can put on a title bout more often.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:44 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

I'd say it was as much to do with the top fighters seemingly unwilling to fight each other than it is politics. Kovalev-Stevenson is a prime example of a fight that should be easy to make, but the 2 camps are dragging their heels. It's infuriating from a fans POV. Especially when you consider a fight like Ray Leonard-Tommy Hearts was made in 5 minutes at the airport. Although Leonard did avoid Marvin Hagler for years so it's nothing new.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:56 pm  

Wildthing wrote:

He's the defender of all things Rhino, whatever the point or full facts may be.

Not sure what's more embarrassing here, your made up post or the fact that you appear to agree with LifeLongHKRfan.

Obviously a knowledge of RL isn't a prerequisite to becoming a mod on here these days.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:57 pm  

LifeLongHKRFan wrote:

Your intelligence astounds me.

I did try and dumb it down for you.
Crikey, are the schools really that bad in Hull?

[Wildthing]

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:44 am  

loiner81 wrote:

Not sure what's more embarrassing here, your made up post or the fact that you appear to agree with LifeLongHKRfan.

Obviously a knowledge of RL isn't a prerequisite to becoming a mod on here these days.

I rest my case

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:18 pm  

loiner81 wrote:

I did try and dumb it down for you.
Crikey, are the schools really that bad in Hull?

I think you need to calm down. What's with all the insults? I have an opinion, you disagree with it. What's the problem? I bet you're a barrel of laughs at work/school. Do you have many friends?

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:14 pm  

knockersbumpMKII wrote:

Murray shouldn't be in at all, he's failed miserably in singles so should only be in with team GB for a team award
Fury is a plastic champ in an era so devoid of talent it's ridiculous.
Ennis Hill will win but for me Peaty should get 2nd, absolute sensation in the pool, Whitlock as the first GB gold medal performance in the individual gymnastics at a world level is not to be sniffed at.
If Froome hadn't got knocked off his bike in the Vuelta and won it (as I reckon he would have done) and doing the double would have being in with a proper shout, as it is he won't.
Uness there are some shenanigans then Sinfield will be out of the running after the first round of shortlisting the short list.
Leeds would IMHO have won the team award were it not for the tennis lot...oh well

I appreciate the focus of this topic is RL but I just wanted to pick up on your point re Froome. He's more deserving a winner than Wiggins ever was. After all, Froome carried Wiggins on his back in 2012 and this years TDF was much tougher due to the parcours and quality of rider. Wiggins was favoured in 2012 due to the favourable ITTs.

As for Sinfield, it's great to see an RL player nominated. However, I can't help but feel it is merely tokenistic, with the BBC promoting one of the few sports that they televise.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:41 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

I appreciate the focus of this topic is RL but I just wanted to pick up on your point re Froome. He's more deserving a winner than Wiggins ever was. After all, Froome carried Wiggins on his back in 2012 and this years TDF was much tougher due to the parcours and quality of rider. Wiggins was favoured in 2012 due to the favourable ITTs.

As for Sinfield, it's great to see an RL player nominated. However, I can't help but feel it is merely tokenistic, with the BBC promoting one of the few sports that they televise.

Froome is probably (just) the better all rounder on the road comparing their peaks, but to say he carried Wiggins in 2012 is a little oversimplifying things to say the least and being a bit disingenuous to Brad. This year you could say that Froome got lucky (being in the front break on the 2nd stage which essentially cost Quintana the tour) he also had the strongest team SKY had assembled (Thomas's viewpoint), Stannard and Rowe were epic whilst superdomestic Geraint Thomas was superlative, without Thomas, Froome would never have won in a month of Sundays.

When Brad won SPOTY he was the first ever Brit to win the TdF which along with his Olympic TT win, Paris-Nice, Tour of Romandie and the Critérium du Dauphiné plus he did stand out because he had a personality and was outspoken against the media he justified his win IMHO.

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:33 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

As for Sinfield, it's great to see an RL player nominated. However, I can't help but feel it is merely tokenistic, with the BBC promoting one of the few sports that they televise.

I thought the same, but it could 'backfire' on them as he is currently 3rd favourite with the bookies at 12/1

I don't think he'll win but a top 3 placing would be an amazing achievement

Re: Sinfield - 1st ever RL player on the BBC SPOTY shortlist : Thu Dec 10, 2015 1:41 pm  

sinfield the rugby union player currently 3rd in the betting now

he can showcase his trophy with the yorkshire carnegie