[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:29 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

we need stronger teams of british players.

Our players arent testing themselves against strong competitive teams because they arent bloody playing. Last season our young international rookie of the year could barely get a game because of dross like Cameron Phelps and Tim Smith, This was at 20 years old, he wasnt a baby.

Sam Tomkins played 27 games last season for Wigan - bet a lot of players being blocked wish they "could barely get a game" using that example.

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:30 pm  

Mable_Syrup wrote:

I'll nibble on this

Leroy Cudjoe
Eorl Crabtree
Andy Raleigh

Alex Brown

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:48 am  

Roofaldo wrote:

My beef is that the players that the English players that come out of this will be playing in a lesser quality league and will therefore be of a lesser quality themselves, putting us further behind the aussies, but it will then remove the false argument that import players are a detriment to RL in this country.

Sometimes you have to take a step backwards to go forwards.

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:21 am  

Catalancs wrote: Inglis prepared to quit NRL €€€€€ French union? €€€€€ Warrington Wolfs have left the number 5 shirt vacant. But if he is off to Union, purely for money, he's scum.

Catalancs wrote: Inglis prepared to quit NRL €€€€€ French union? €€€€€ Warrington Wolfs have left the number 5 shirt vacant. But if he is off to Union, purely for money, he's scum.

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:21 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Warrington Wolfs have left the number 5 shirt vacant.

But if he is off to Union, purely for money, he's scum.

Sure he is. He's scum for wanting to provide a comfortable lifestyle for himself and his family. What a total b*stard. He's worse than Hitler, Stalin and Satan combined

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:43 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Warrington Wolfs have left the number 5 shirt vacant.

But if he is off to Union, purely for money, he's scum.

People working to earn money!!!

Whatever next!!!

Warrington Wolves with no overseas players

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:08 pm  

Hey! That's not funny. Don't joke about that, you'll scare the children.

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:34 pm  

Barnacle Bill wrote:

All of which is addressed by the RFL introducing an increasing requirement for home grown players in each clubs SL squad, which over time, along with the gradual decrease in quota players and natural wastage of players exempt on grounds of length of service will result in more English players playing regularly in SL games, so what exactly is your beef?

That the point i addressed (the one repeated below for you by roofaldo) was incorrect.

You would have known that had you not been so desperate to defend Hull KRs recruitment of 10 overseas players to cover for their faillings in bringing through and/or introducing young british players in to SL that you didnt actually read what was said.

Whats that people say about protesting too much?

and just to address your point, the quota and natural wastage would have already happened had clubs not been so ill-equipped and inadequately prepared that they needed exemptions and a slower gradual decrease in the quota. It is clubs short-term self interest in inadequate forward planning that has delayed the games improvement and set it back a minimum of 3 years

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:54 pm  

Roofaldo wrote:

My beef is that the players that the English players that come out of this will be playing in a lesser quality league and will therefore be of a lesser quality themselves, putting us further behind the aussies, but it will then remove the false argument that import players are a detriment to RL in this country.

But the biggest problem with English RL is the strength in depth. The England side has talented players, but the players the level below them are nowhere near as good.

You look at the Aus side, and they could put out a 2nd, 3rd probably even a 4th choice side and they'd still be able to play at an incredibly high level.

The quality of the league will probably have to dip in the short term yes, but if that means that there are more players of a good standard playing across the league, then the intensity of playing a decent side every single week will begin to produce better players and have them used to a similar level of intensity that the Aussies and Kiwi's get used to.

Re: 2011 SL Transfers : Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:56 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

That the point i addressed (the one repeated below for you by roofaldo) was incorrect.

You would have known that had you not been so desperate to defend Hull KRs recruitment of 10 overseas players to cover for their faillings in bringing through and/or introducing young british players in to SL that you didnt actually read what was said.

Whats that people say about protesting too much?

But as usual, most of what you've written is just bizarre...

SmokeyTA wrote:

There it is. Why would a coach pick an unproven kid when he has experienced players to choose from? Why would the next Billy Slater get given his debut if the club has experienced players like Shad Royston to pick from?

If a coach wants to select an experienced player he selects him because he's experienced, not because he's an experienced Aussie, simply because he's experienced.

Given the remit of a SL coach which I think we can all agree on being to win games and considering the physical demands on players of a long tough SL season, if this hypothetical coach does not carefully introduce young players to gain experience, when they are required they are likely to be found lacking and consequently the team may well lose. Losing games not being in the remit of an SL coach that coach's policy re young players will come under scrutiny.

It is therefore apparent that a good coach will prepare players as well as possible for the eventuality that they are called upon to perform at SL standard, if he does not then the losers will be the club which ill prepares young players. It then becomes the responsibilty of the player to perform to a standard that the coach selects him because he's proven himself to be the best player in his position (a bit like Kris Welham did).

So why would a coach not want to prepare young players for first team SL rugby?