: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:27 pm  

Tony Catsmith wrote:

woah woah woah, he looked bad against barrow?

that's seriously worrying.

Probably the worst player on the pitch.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:58 pm  

St. Chunter wrote:

hold on a minute, you cant tell me the fact he started was the reason he played poorly? i didnt see the game so have no idea whether he did or didn't but what stops him having an impact from the start against a team like barrow? at the top level where the margins between success and failure are small then it may be fair to say someone is 'better' as an impact player than starting, but it is never an excuse for performing poorly

I guess what is being said is that he has much more of an impact against tiring opposition than fresh opposition, hence starting that game eliminating this key strength.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:15 am  

Tony Catsmith wrote:

woah woah woah, he looked bad against barrow?

that's seriously worrying.

For the rest of super league I agree. If he can knock down defences in super league for fun then why couldn't he against Barrow?

Wigan never came out of second gear and won the game more comfortably than the scoreline suggested. Barrow played well and threw everything they had at Wigan. Good game to watch but Wigan won the game with more energy levels for Thursdays match than St.helens and if we are to have any chance of winning we will have to play at a high intensity.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:37 am  

doesn't take a brain surgeon to work it out really,

supposed trouble at saints = gleeson leaves

supposed trouble at wire = gleeson leaves

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:48 am  

Fingerposts Finest wrote:

supposed trouble at wire = gleeson leaves

What supposed trouble?

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:51 am  

St. Chunter wrote:

hold on a minute, you cant tell me the fact he started was the reason he played poorly? i didnt see the game so have no idea whether he did or didn't but what stops him having an impact from the start against a team like barrow? at the top level where the margins between success and failure are small then it may be fair to say someone is 'better' as an impact player than starting, but it is never an excuse for performing poorly

Not an excuse. A reason.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:03 pm  

Alex BP' wrote:

What supposed trouble?

dunno,but it doesn't take a widnes fan to......oh!

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:04 pm  

cadoo wrote:

Not an excuse. A reason.

a very ill judged one imo

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:17 pm  

St. Chunter wrote:

a very ill judged one imo

Fair enough.

: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:18 pm  

Tony Catsmith wrote:

dunno,but it doesn't take a widnes fan to......oh!

just to that my relative has taken quite a lot of unjustified stick for th wire party culture.................