: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:16 am  

Fully wrote:

Dear god. If that was a "minor" incident, I dread to think what would be a major incident in your eyes.

The fans who did it were a disgrace - no bones about. Are you seriously saying that players laughing after a win deserve that? Or a referee who got lots of decisions correct, which Cas fans were bloody moaning about, deserved to be bottled etc etc?

Come off it. Deluded.

It happens at most ground ibn the country and it delt with internal as club no need for RLF to be involved i have seen much worse things than the fighting at Whitehaven trouble and Leigh by the opsite fans Wake and Cas fans throwing bottle at each other the season we was religated.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:58 am  

FWIW, I don't think Cas should be made an example of, no more than Leeds should've when they littered Wheldon Road with bottles, no more than Warrington were when Lesley Vainakolo was hit with a bottle from the South Stand whilst playing, no more than Salford were for throwing Flares, no more than Warrington were when bottles were thrown at Karl Fitzpatrick when he scored at the Willows... I cold go on all day.

The sad truth is that mainly drunken young lads off council estates the length and bredth of the country see what happens at football and what happens on their estates and think it is acceptable to act like dickheads 'cause they've had a few beers. Unfortunately for us, there are those who populate RL terraces that can't afford to go to the chavball, so they get in Rugby matches where it's considerably cheaper and go 'for the banter'. Sadly, throwing bottles and being abusive is part of their perception of 'banter'.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:59 am  

mrpurfect wrote:

6 pages and nobody has hit the nail on the head yet.
The match officials were spot on with the decisions but it's still understandable in the heat of the moment how people can get frustrated.
It seems everytime Cas score on a TV game it goes to the Video ref, that looks at every angle frame by frame until they find one frame from one angle that looks dubious and the try is disallowed,while nearly all the Dragon's trys were awarded on the spot.
They had one try disallowed and you saw the reaction from Kevin Walters afterwards booting the chair in front of him, so even opposition coaches get frustrated when only one try gets chalked off.Add to that all the head high tackles and the Rangi Chase penalty,all of which the ref was right but the penalty against Rangi was harsh.The punishment did not fit the crime and i think the RFL should look at maybe changing the rules on that.

But none of that was the reason why, or a excuse for the bottle throwing!
This was the first game this season that Cas sold alcohol on the terraces,probably thinking Catalan don't bring any fans so there won't be any trouble,well they got it wrong ,alcohol and frustrated fans don't mix.
The solution is simple,if we want our sport to keep it's family image then stop selling alcohol on the terraces,SIMPLES!

.....and oh P.S to all the Wakey trolls ,get a loving life you sad sad lovers.

How would stopping selling alcohol on the terraces work when, at the vast majority of clubs, people still manage to behave themselves when it's on sale?

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:28 am  

The only thing i want to say is i was shocked and embarrased to call myself a Cas fan on saturday, an utter disgrace.


We lost the game on saturday, our inept attack and poor wide defence. The refereee was not to blame, there may well of been some high shots un-noticed but we do it aswel......

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:33 am  

Gaslight wrote:

So if Cas knew who threw the bottles and banned em the RFL wouldn't have to bother investigating?

Having a flair in the ground in the first place was against the law, throwing it further broke the law, the club deserved at the very least a fine for that - not just 'fine you've banned him'

For somebody that did not attend the game you seem to know a great deal and seem to be spending a lot of time defending the indefensible. To make things worse you are now using incidents from other clubs to excuse the actions of idiots. Those clubs you mentioned took the appropriate action and are now trouble free. Lets hope that Cas can do the same for the sake of the club and the good fans that follow the team. Fwiw you would be better employed criticising the idiots what have caused a good club embarassment instead of having a pop at clubs' what have experienced the problem Cas now have on their doorstep. Just a thought.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:36 am  

Is there CCTV in the ground at Castleford? If so, then bottle throwers should be identified and not only banned for life, but also prosecuted. As for the angry mob waiting for the Ref after the game, if they are on camera then they should again be looking at a ban.
I used to be a season ticket holder at Celtic and I remember the fear and hate on the terraces......it's one of the reasons I have no interest in soccer any more and why I watch Rugby League.
If the RFL make an example of Castleford, then I am sure loads on here will say it's unfair because of previous instances going unpunished, but they need to start somewhere and as unjust as it may seem to punish the innocent 99.9% of Castleford fans, if nothing is done, then this kind of behaviour will start to creep into our game and drive families away.

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:37 am  

Not read this thread all the way through so sorry its been mentioned but I dont get why this incident is causing such a stir compared to when Hull played away at Catalans last year (may have been the year before actually, but think it was last year). The home fans were throwing loads of beer on the pitch during the second half and at the end, throwing lots of things at the ref, including a flag pole. If your going to punish one club, then punish them all. Makes me think they are only making an example of Cas because the game was on Sky and therefore cant brush it under the carpet

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:03 pm  

The Key wrote:

Not read this thread all the way through so sorry its been mentioned but I dont get why this incident is causing such a stir compared to when Hull played away at Catalans last year (may have been the year before actually, but think it was last year). The home fans were throwing loads of beer on the pitch during the second half and at the end, throwing lots of things at the ref, including a flag pole. If your going to punish one club, then punish them all. Makes me think they are only making an example of Cas because the game was on Sky and therefore cant brush it under the carpet

the cats fans did that when we were there too

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:19 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

the cats fans did that when we were there too

I am sure you are dying to tell us more. Please enlighten us. Sorry wrong Cats

: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:26 pm  

gutterfax wrote:

Is there CCTV in the ground at Castleford? If so, then bottle throwers should be identified and not only banned for life, but also prosecuted. As for the angry mob waiting for the Ref after the game, if they are on camera then they should again be looking at a ban.
I used to be a season ticket holder at Celtic and I remember the fear and hate on the terraces......it's one of the reasons I have no interest in soccer any more and why I watch Rugby League.
If the RFL make an example of Castleford, then I am sure loads on here will say it's unfair because of previous instances going unpunished, but they need to start somewhere and as unjust as it may seem to punish the innocent 99.9% of Castleford fans, if nothing is done, then this kind of behaviour will start to creep into our game and drive families away.

how long have you been watching Rugby there always been bits of trouble i will say it again it not good but it was not half as bad as people are making out and no i was not involved.